latin geminate "ll" ( it was: Re: [tied] Re: *g'(h)- > d as aberran

From: alex
Message: 32537
Date: 2004-05-10

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> Alb. /ll/ is from /l/ in intevocalic position, cf. o:lena > Geg.
> llânë, Tosk. llërë.
>
> Konushevci


about intervocalic "ll":
that sound healthy to me and shows why actually Alb. "ll" in
intervocalic position has a counterpart in Rom. "r" in intervocalic
position; since the Latin "l" has too a counterpart in Rom. "r" if in
intervocalic position one can say for sure there is an old *l with
output : Latin "l", Alb. "ll", Rom. "l".


My question here is what about Latin geminate "ll"; which is its
origin in fact and why this is geminate one? The geminate "ll" is to
find in Greek as well and I remember having read somewhere that Latin
"l" should have had 3 phonetical values as per testimonies of the
gramairs. Is that true or just a miss-interpretation of the texts?

P.S.- is there any modality to find out when did happen the
methathesis in Alb. or this is a stil living phoenomenon? So far I
know for Slavic there is the VIII-X century considered to be the
period of methathesis but it can be there was posbile the
determination in time due OCS-texts.

Alex