Re: [tied] *g'(h)- > d as aberrant outcome

From: alex
Message: 32506
Date: 2004-05-09

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 00:55:57 +0200, alex
> <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
>>>> hmmm... why Alb. "G'"?
>>>> so far I know, Alb. "gjendër" is seen as a derivative from Latin
>>>> "glandula"(the same is said about Rom. "ghindurã"; if that is
true
>> we
>>>> have already the change "gl" > "g" in Alb. as well and then we do
>> not
>>>> have to search for any Alb. "G'"
>>>
>>> gl > gj = G' (voiced palatal stop).
>>>
>>
>> and the change G' > ghe in Rom should be seen as a
>> "depalatalisation"?
>
> I was talking about Albanian (where gj- from Latin gl-, gl^-
> merged with natibe /G'/ from *j-). I don't think we need to
> assume a palatal stop in Romanian: glandula > gl^ândurã >
> gjândurã > gindurã (spelt with gh-).
>
>
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I understand you was talking about Albanian change here. I brought the
example of "gjendër" because we have had as target an another word,
namely "ngjesh" which I see to be cognate with Rom. "inghesui"; both
compositum (ngjesh & inghesui) but too "gjesh" and Rom. "ghes"; the
outgoing point was the derivation of Alb. word which was supposed to
be from the root *h1en-)joh3s- and from this root I cannot see any
modality to get Rom. "ghes" or "inghesui".
As for the derivation from Latin glandula > ghindura.. there is
nothing againt derivation from IE *ghend as well; the suffix "-urã"
makes the job: *ghend +ura > ghendura > ghindurã.

Alex




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