Snorri on "Odin's journey" [Was:Re: Whence Grimm?]

From: tgpedersen
Message: 31959
Date: 2004-04-16

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Before I forget, yesterday's Berlingske Tidende had
> > an article on the
> > weapons deposit finds in the Vimose bog (0 - 200 CE)
> > on Fyn: five
> > ring-pommeled swords (usually considered to a
> > Sarmatian thing). The
> > researcher involved didn't say as much, but the
> > angle of the article
> > was: Danes might have participated in the Marcomanni
> > war we know
> > from "Gladiator". The understood premise is that
> > this would have been
> > the first opportunity for people from this country
> > to meet
> > Sarmatians. Unfortunately (this was news to me) the
> > notes of the
> > excavators have been lost, and the finds are
> > scattered all over
> > Europe, since a local priest sold out of them, so
> > there is not much
> > of a chance to place the supposedly Sarmatian swords
> > anywhere within
> > the given timeframe.
> >
> > Torsten

I see you had no comment on the ring-pommeled swords. Personally I
find it strange that people from Denmark should have travelled to
Bohemia to fight the Romans, there aquired some Sarmatian swords, and
then travelled home and dumped them in a bog. You'd expect the
weapons you find in a weapons deposit to have belonged to the
vanquished, who furthermore were vanquished in the vicinity of the
bog. We know no accounts of Germanic peoples having travelled long
distances to dump their trophies in particular bogs.


>
> *****GK: I know I'm going to regret this...
> My dear Torsten, I can guarantee that no matter how
> long and how hard you look, you will never find the
> evidence required to substantiate your use of the
> Snorri story as a prime foundation stone for your
> theory of Germanic origins.

Aha. Trying the sweet-talk approach this time? ;-)

>Rydberg's study of this
> problem, though over one hundred years old, remains
> the best antidote. Cf.
> http://www.northvegr.org/lore/rydberg/007.php?
PHPSESSID=8920370ec3d7612e4af8c5277e0f4833
>
> There is, however, one point which readers of this
> thread should remember. And it is this: your theory is
> not Snorri's theory. At best, one may view it as a
> "variation on a theme from Snorri in the
> Ynglingasaga". At the moment, you are searching for
> archaeological proof that "Odin's people" wandered
> westward through Bastarnia and Vandalia before they
> reached Germany proper ("Saxland"). But the route from
> "Asaland" which you have picked for them is not the
> one scripted by Snorri. (The Snorra Edda has nothing
> to say about the specifics of the route, and in any
> case its identification of Turkland with Troy, and of
> Odin as a 20th generation descendant of King Priam of
> Troy should be warrant enough for instant dismissal.

Go talk to Schliemann about it.


> It knows nothing of "Asgard", "Vanaland", "Tanakvisl"
> et sim. So it's either Heimskringla or it's nothing.)
> But what does Snorri say? (1) That "Asaland" (Odin's
> country) was located somewhere to the east of the Don
> river, and certainly to the east of "Vanaland", which
> occupied both banks of the Don. [let's not get into
> the impossible archaeology for this, because I only
> want to make a point about the specifics of "Odin's
> journey" according to Snorri] (2) That at some point
> between 70 and 60 BC [the timeframe for Pompey the
> Roman's conquests in the east, incl. the destruction
> of Mithradates' Empire (which would have abutted on
> the so-called "Vanaland" from the south) and the
> defeat of Armenia], Odin decided to abandon Asaland
> and set forth on his journey. (3) That initially he
> travelled "westward to Gardariki". Presumably since at
> that time (in Snorri's account) Asaland and Vanaland
> were friends and allies, the "westward" journey would
> start from the Asaland-Vanaland territories, i.e. Odin
> would move across to Don towards the setting sun. What
> was "Gardariki" for Snorri? It was the territory of
> the Rus' complex of his time (as "Turkland" was the
> Seldjuk Asia Minor). We know the geographical
> boundaries of this complex very well. What next? (4)
> From "Gardariki" Odin and co. travelled "SOUTH" to
> "Saxland". Now how is it possible to do that? There is
> only one scenario: they are imagined by Snorri to have
> taken "the road from the Greeks to the Varangians",
> which was the prime highway for east-bound
> Scandinavians in Snorri's time. The most northerly
> city of the Rus' complex at that time was Ladoga, also
> well known to Norsemen, and from Ladoga, the way to
> "Saxland" is indeed a way to the south. ===

So I'll grant you that: Snorri imposed the routes known at his time
on the material he discovered.



>Let's not
> worry about the anachronism (one of many). After all
> in the Old Ukrainian Chronicle, the Apostle Andrew is
> made to travel from Chersones to Rome by this
> "Varangian Road" in the mid-first first century AD.
> (5) After having spent some time in "Saxland" the
> Odinists started their expansion northward.== This
> assumes that at first they passed by Scandinavia
> without stopping. That assumption is entirely
> compatible with Snorri's story.

I am afraid I don't follow? Stopping on their way to?


> Now I don't think it is possible to demonstrate
> Snorri's version. It's fantasy.

Because?


>But at least it's
> fantasy once removed from reality, not twice (as yours
> is, since your theory is "Snorri" (snippets from
> Snorri) + Torsten). Snorri doesn't say how long the
> trip from Asaland to Saxland took. If you opt for the
> "long" version, you'll have to find your Sarmatian
> proof somewhere between Kyiv and Ladoga (good
> luck...). If you choose the "short" version, you still
> have to come up with some evidence of foreign
> intrusion in Germany ca. 60/50 BC, and an intrusion
> identifiable with archaeological objects from the
> east.******
>

There was foreign intrusion into Thuringia, namely from the Oder-
Warthe group of the Przeworsk culture, at the same time as the
Przworsk culture experience a sharp break (Boosen: "Zäsur")
themselves, including the appearance of inhumation graves in an until
the exclusively cremation grave environment.

The hallmark of the Germanic languages, the Grimm shift, seems to
have spread north and west from Thuringia. At the same time, as we
discussed way back wrt Albrectsen's material on find on Fyn at the
time, there was a sudden break, among other things, inhumation graves
start to appear (which as I have learned from you, is the preferred
mode of interment of the Sarmatians), replacing the until then
exclusively used cremation.

You asked me to provide archaeological leads for a connection between
the Oder-Warthe culture and cultures on the supposed "Odin trail".
Here are list of finds of various clasp(fibula) types found in the
Oder-Warthe culture of the period, plus ditto of the Oksywie culture.
As you can see, they are spread all over a trail from the Crimea (one
fin at Kerch) to Germany, including Bohemia, Moravia, Slovakia,
Belarus, Hungary and Ukraine. On top of that, they are found within
sites of Zarubincy cultures, in fortified Dacian villages and in
sites otherwise ascribed to Sarmatians.


For a few of the types I have included statistics of the distribution
between inhumation and cremation graves. It seems the types Almgren
67 and 68 (with subtypes) are the most, and Kostrewski type M and N
(with subtypes) the least connected with inhumation, so I believe if
any type of filula is connected with an intrusive Sarmatian element,
it should be A67/A68.






Jan Derk Boosen:
Das Oder-Warthe-Gebiet in der Przeworsk-kultur
während der ausgehenden vorrömischen Eisenzeit
und der älteren Kaiserzeit


Liste 1a: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Kostrzewski
Var. M (einschliesslich der Formen.die durch grössere
Länge herausragen.

Kannikkegaard, Bodilsker sn., Bornholm

Nørre Sandegaard, Østerlarsker sn. Bornholm

plus 41 sites in Poland


Liste 1b: Geschweifte Fibeln, die sich in ihrem Material
oder auch ihrer reicheren Verzierung (Nadelhalter) vom
Kostr. Var. M unterscheiden.

Vyelemic^i, rajon David-Gorodok, oblast' Brjest, Belarus
Gräberfeld II (Zarubincy-Kultur)

plus 4 sites in Poland

For lists 1a + 1b, graves with Kostrzewski type M and variants:
Przeworsk: 2, of which 0 are inhumation graves
Oksywie : 17, of which 1 are inhumation graves


Liste 2: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Idrija und verwandte
Formen.

Kazackoye, rn Byerislav, obl. Kherson, Ukraine
Gräberfeld der antiken Stadtanlage bei dem "Gorodok
Nikolajevka": 1 Ex.

plus 1 site in Poland


Liste 3a: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Almgren 18a.

3 sites in Poland


Liste 3b: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Almgren 18b.

5 sites in Poland


Liste 4a: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Kostrzewski
Var. N.

C^aplin, rn. Loyev, obL. Gomyel, Belarus
Gräberfeld der Zarubincy-Kultur: 2 ex; iron, brz.

Gramzow-Koboltenhof, Kr. Prenzlau, Bez. Frankfurt-Oder

Lebus, Kr. Seelow, Bez. Frankfurt/Oder

Lyeplyava, rn Zolotonos^a, obl. C^erkassy, Ukraine

Melzow, Kr. Prenzlau, Bez. Neubrandenburg

Nørre Sandegaard, Ødterlarker sn., Bornholm

Otvyerz^ic^i, rn Stolin, obl. Bryest, Belarus

Poc^ep, rn P., obl. Bryansk, FRSR
Siedlung der Poc^ep-Kultur ("Östl. Zarubincy-K.")

Porolissum at Moigrad, r. Zâlau, reg. Cluj, Romania
Dakisches Gr¨berfeld auf dem Mâgura-Berg: 1 Ex.; brz.

Sachnovka, rn Korsun-S^evc^enkovskij, obl. C^erkassy, Ukraine
Siedlung der Zarubincy-Kultur: "Gora Djevica": 1 Ex.

Vyelemic^i, rn David-Grodok, obl Bryest, Belarus
Gräberfeld I (Zarubincy-Kultur): 5 ex.; 2 brz, 3 iron.

Zarubincy, rn Pyereyaslav-Khmelnickiy, obl. Kiev, Ukraine.
Gräberfeld der Zarubincy-Kultur: 1 Ex.; brz.

Zolotaja Balka, rn Novovoroncovka, obl. Kherson, Ukraine
Gr¨ber in "skytho-sarmatischer" Siedlung; mindestens
1 Ex.; brz.
M.I.Vyasmitina, Zolota Balka. Pozyelyennya sarmatskogo
c^asu na niz^nyomu Dnipri (1962). 198 Abb.82,12 u. 199.

Liptovská Mara, okr. Liptovsky Mikulás^, Slovakia
Siedlung der P'uchov-Kultur.

plus 46 sites in Poland


Liste 4b: Geschweifte Fibeln des Typs Kostrz. Var. N.,
jedoch mit reich verziertem Nadelhalter.

Seelow, Kr. S., Bez. Frankfurt/Oder

plus 15 sites in Poland


Liste 4c: Vewrschiedene Derivate der geschweiften Fibeln
vom Typ Kostrzewski Var.N mit verbreitertem oder bandför-
migem vorderem Bügelteil (einschliesslich des Fibeltyps
A.10 und verwandter Formen).

Järve, rn Jo:geva, Estonia
Tarandgräberfeld: 1 Ex. ähl. A.101 brz.: aus Nachbe-
stattungen im Deckpflaster von Grabanlage III.

Kannikegaard, Bodilsker sn, Bornholm

Vyelemic^i, rn David-Gorodok, obl. Bryest, Belarus
Gräberfeld(I) der Zarubincy-Kultur

plus 18 sites in Poland

For lists 4a + 4b + 4c, graves with Kostrzewski type N and variants:
Przeworsk: 15, of which 0 are inhumation graves
Oksywie : 38, of which 1 are inhumation graves


Liste 5a: Fibeln des Typs Almgren 2a (Kostrzewski Var.O).

Gris^c^ency, rn Kanyev, obl C^erkassy, Ukraine

Liptovská Mara, okr. Liptovský Mikulás^, Slovakia
Siedlung der Púchov-Kultur

Luc^ki(L/uczka), rn Ternopol, obl T, Ukraine

Melzow, Kr. Prenzlau, Bez. Neubrandenburg

Nørre Søndergaard, Østerlarsker sn, Bornholm

Ostrivyec, rn Gvozdjec, obl Ivano Frankovsk(Stanislav), Ukraine
Sarmatisches Gräberfeld: 1 Ex. Gr. 2

Sklabinský Podzámok, okr. Martin, Slovakia

Vyelemic^i, rn David-Gorodok, obl Bryest, Belarus
Gräberfeld der Zarubincy-Kultur: 2 Ex: Gr.47.

plus 25 sites in Poland


Liste 5b: Fibeln des Typs Almgren 2b (mit Sehnenhaken).

Goronica(Horodnica), rn Gorodyenka, obl Ivano-Frankovsk(Stanislav),
Ukraine

VyS^ný Kubin, okr. Dolný Kubin, Slovakia

plus 10 sites in Poland


Liste 6a : Rollenkappenfibeln des Typs Almgren 24.

1 site in Poland
Lubieszew(Lübsow), pow. Gryfice(Greifenberg), woj. Szczecin(Stettin)
Fürstengrab III(1913): 4 ex.; 2 si., 2 br.


Liste 6b : Rollenkappenfibeln des Typs Almgren 25-26
mit Fuss wie A.33-34a.b.

Bohemia oder Moravia(?)
1 Ex, brz.

Br^eclav-Stará Br^eclav, okr B, Moravia

Hasle, H sn, Bornholm

Kanegaard, Knudsker sn, Bornholm

Neumark, unkn. location

Scania(?), Sweden

Velatice, okr Hodonin, Moravia

plus 7 sites in Poland


Liste 7a : Rollenkappenfibeln des Typs Almgren 37.

Kriz^ovany n. D., okr Trnava, Slovakia

plus 6 sites in Poland


Liste 7b : Rollenkappenfibeln mit Fuss wie Almgren 33-34a.b
und Sehnenhaken wie Almgren 36.

Hasle, H. sn, Bornholm

plus 1 site in Poland


Liste 8a : Augenfibeln des Typs Almgren 44 und Almgren 45a.

Kolokolin, rn Rogatin, obl Ivano-Frankovsk(Stanislav), Ukraine
Fürstenf´grab(Kö.best.) der Lipica-Kultur(?)/Nachbestattung
in neolith, Grabhügel: 1 Ex.

Melzow, Kr. Prenzlau, Bez. Neubrandenburg

plus 3 sites in Poland


Liste 8b : Augenfibeln des Tps Almgren 45b(46).

Abrahám, okr Galanta, Slovakia

Former "Kom. Árva", Slovakia

Dalshøj, Ibsker sn, Bornholm

Dyndalen(Dynddal), Rø sn, Bornholm

Jäbara, Lüganuse parish, rn Kohtla-Järve, Estonia
Tarandgräberfeld C: 1 Ex.

Kanegaard, Knudsker sn, Bornholm

Kostolná, okr Galanta, Slovakia

Lietzen-Komturei, Kr. Seelow, Bez. Frankfurt/Oder

Seitschen, Kr. Bautzen, Bez. Dresden

Store Kannikkegaard, Bodilsker sn, Bornholm

plus 18 sites in Poland


Augenfibeln Almgr."46-47", die wahrscheinlich zu den Formen Almgr. 45b
(46) gehören:

Neppermin-Balm/Usedom, Kr. Wolgast, Bez Rostock


Liste 8c : Augenfibeln der Typen Almgr49 und 50
einschliessl. A."48-50").

Eisliethen bei Pobethen, Kr. Fischhausen, East Prussia

Dyndalen(dynddal, Døndale), Rø sn, Bornholm

Mistelbach, Bez. M., Niederösterreich, Austria

Store Bjergegaard, Vestermarie sn, Bornholm

Store Kannikkegaard, Bodilsker sn, Bornholm

Trausitten, Kr. Königsberg, East Prussia

Sonderform:
Kriz^ovany n. D., okr Trnava, Slovakia

plus 13 sites in Poland


Liste 8d : Augenfibeln der Typen Almgren 51 und 52.

Auciems, Raiskums parish, Ce:sis region, Latvia

unkn. location, Bornholm

Eisliethen, Kr. Fischhausen, former East Prussia

Essu, Haljala parish, rn Rakvere, Estonia

Jäbara, Lüganuse parish, rn Kohtla-Järve, Estonia
Tarand-Gräberfeld (S): 2 Ex.

Järve, J. parish, rn Jo:geva(Jo:hvi), Estonia
Tarand-Gräberfeld: 1 Ex.

Hasle, H. sn, Bornholm

Kanegaard, Knudsker sn, Bornholm

Mistelbach, Bez. M., Niederösterreich, Austria

unkn. location, East Prussia(?)

Pajusi, Po:ltsamaa parish, rn Jo:geva, Estonia

Peri, Peri parish, rn Jo:geva, Estonia
Tarand-Gr¨berfeld: 1 Ex.

Riga(?), Latvia

Runko-"Koskenhaka", Piikiö parish, Varsinais-Suomi
(Eigentliches Finnland), Finland
Tarand-Gräberfeld: 1 Ex.

Store Kannikkegaard, Bodilsker sn, Bornholm

Upmali, Baiz^kalns parish, Kr. Ce:sis,Latvia

Utria, "Papikivik", Vaivara parish, rn Kohtla-Järve, Estonia

plus 20 sites in Poland


Liste 9a : Augefibeln des Typs Almgren 54.

Melzow, Kr. Prenzlau, Bez. Neubrandenburg, Germany

plus 3 sites in Poland


Abrahám, okr Galanta, Slovakia

Kostolná p. D., okr Galanta, Slovakia
Gräberfeld: 2Ex.; si. Gr.35.
J.Garbsch, Die norisch-pannonische Frauentract im 1. und 2.
Jahrhundert.(1965), 229 Nr.730,2 -
Freundl. Mitteilung P.Glüsing.

Pilismarót-Basaharc, Bez. Dorog, Kom. Komárom, Hungary
Awarenzeitl. Gräberfeld: 1 Ex: Streufund(1938)

plus 2 sites in Poland


Liste 10a : Fibeln des Typs Almgren 67.

Abrahám, okr. Galanta, Slovakia

Adakavas(Odachowo), s skaudvilé, rn Tauragé

Cetea, com. Benic, r. Alba, reg. Hunedoava
(Csáklya), östlich von Teius(Tövis), Siebenbürgen,
Romania

Chotin, okr Komárno, Slovakia

Dalshøj, Ibsker sn, Bornholm

Devín, okr. Bratislava m., Slovakia

Gris^c^eny,rn Kanyev, obl C^erkassy, Ukraine
Gräberfeld der Zarubincy-Kultur: 2 Ex.

Kerc^(Pantikapey), obl Krim, Ukraine

Kolokolin, rn Rogatin, obl Ivano-Frankovsk(Stanislav), Ukraine
Fürstengrab(Kö.gr., Nachbest. der Lipica-Kultur(?) in
neolith. Grabhügel)(1935): 2 Ex.

Kononc^a, rn Pyereyaslav-Khmelnickiy, obl Kiev, Ukraine

Kostolná p. D., okr Galanta, Slovakia

Kriz^ovany n. D.(Kerestúr), okr Trnava, Slovakia

Luc^ki(L/uczka), rn & obl Ternopol, Ukraine

Mannersdorf/March, Bez. Matzen, Niederösterreich

Nedakonice, okr. Uherské Hradis^te^, Moravia

Plos^tin-Rohac^ka, okr Liptovský Mikulás^, Slovakia

Poiana(Piroboridava), r. Tecuci, reg Galat,i, Nieder-
Moldau, Romania
Dakische befestigte Siedlung; mindestens 2 Ex.:
Siel.schict III/1-1; Einzelfund ausserhalb der
Siedlung.

Púchov,okr Povaz^ská Bystrica, Slovakia
"Skalka", befestigte Höhensiedlung der Púchov-Kultur

unkn. location, Romania

Zapaja at Banatska Palanka, Banat, Yugoslavia

Schleinbach, Bez. Grossenzersdorf, Niederösterreich, Austria

Slusegaard, Pedersker sn, Bornholm

unkn. location, Ukraine

Velký Bysterec-Trniny, okr Dolný Kubín, Slovakia
Siedlung der Púchov-Kultur: 1 Ex.

plus 45 sites in Poland

For list 10a, graves with Almgren type 67 and variants:
Przeworsk: 8, of which 3 from inhumation graves
Oksywie : 15, of which 5 from inhumation graves


Liste 10b : Kräftig profilierte Fibeln des Typs A.68
(Varianten A68a und b).

Abrahám, okr Galanta, Slovakia

Altenmarkt im Tal, Bez Hollabrunn, Niederösterreich

Bolotnoye, rn Pyeremys^lyany, obl Lvov, Ukraine
"Osyelis^c^a", Gräberfeld der Lipica-Kultur

Bobroc^kovice, okr Vys^kov, Moravia

Frennemark, Svaneke sn, Bornholm

Fülöpkei-Jakabszállás, Bez. Kískunfélegyháza, Kom.
Bács-Kískun, Hungary

Galic^(Halicz), rn & obl Ivano-Frankovsk(Stanislav),
Ukraine

Grinyev(Hryniów), rn Bobrka, obl Lvov, Ukraine
a) "Mogila", Gräberfeld der Lipica-Kultur: 3 Ex.
b) Grabfund der Przeworsk-Kultur: 1 Ex.

Hannuste, Ro:uge parish, rn Vo:ru, Estonia

Hódmezövásárhely, Bez. H., Kom. Csongrad, Hungary
Gepidisches Gräberfeld: 1 Ex.

Kostolná p. D., okr Galanta, Slovakia

Láb, okr. Bratislava v., Slovakia

Malacky, okr Bratislavav., Slovakia

Matroninskoye gorodis^c^e(uroc^. "Galus^c^ino"), rn C¨igirin, obl.
C^erkassy, Ukraine

Mikulov, okr. Brec^lav, Moravia

Mistelbach, Bez. M., Niederösterreich, Austria

Otvyerz^ic^i, rn Stolin, obl Bryest, Belarus
Gräberfeld der Zarubincy-Kultur: 1 Ex. A.68b (?):
Streufund aus der Aufschüttung des 3. slaw. Grabhügels.

Púchov, okr Povaz^ská Bystica, Slovakia
"Skalka", befestigte Höhensiedlung der Púchov-Kultur:
1 Ex.(?).

Rispebjerg, Poulsker sn, Bornholm

unkn. location, Romania

unkn. location, Slovakia

Slusegaard, Pedersker sn, Bornholm

Suc^any, okr Martin, Slovakia
"Pod skalou", Siedlung der Púchov-Kultur: 1-2 Ex.
(1 x A68b).

Szentes-Berekhát/Gógánypart, Bez. Szentes,
Kom. Csongrad, Hungary
Gepidisches Gräberfeld

Turnu-Severin, r. T.-S., Romania

Uherský Brod, okr Uherské Hradis^te^, Moravia

Ulas^kovcy(Ul/aszkowce), rn C^ortkov, obl Ternopol,
Ukraine

Velatice, okr Brno-v., Moravia

Verbyc^ka(Werbyczna), rn. Dunajevcy, obl.
Ohmyelnickiy, Ukraine

Verkhnyaya Lipica (Lipica Górna), rn Rogatin, obl Ivano-Frankovsk
(Stanislav), Ukraine
Gräberfeld der Lipica-Kultur

Vlc^kovce, okr Trnava, Slovakia

Zemplin, okr Trebis^ov, Slovakia

Zohor, okr Bratislava-v., Slovakia

Zvyenigorod(Dz´winogród), rn Bobrka, obl Lvov, Ukraine
a)"Pod stara cerkwia", Grabfund der Lipica-Kultur
b)Zvyenigorod
c)"Goyeva Góra", Gräberfeld der Lipica-Kultur

plus 55 sites in Poland

For list 10b, graves with Almgren type 68 and variants:
Przeworsk: 11, of which 1 are inhumation graves
Oksywie : 17, of which 8 are inhumation graves


Nicht näher bestimmbare kräftig profilierte Fibeln der
Form Almgren 67-68.

Neppermin-Balm, Kr. Wolgast, Bez. Rostock, Germany

plus 7 sites in Poland


Liste 11 : Fibeln des Typs A.236 (Varianten A.236b
und A.236c).
Nach J.Garbsch, Die norisch-pannonische Frauentracht
im 1. und 2, Jahrhundert

Altenmarkt im Tal, Bez. Hollabrunn, Niederösterreich, Austria

Devin, okr Bratislava m., Slovakia

Dobr^ichoc-Pic^hora, okr Kolín, Bohemia

Dobr^in, okr Roudnice, Bohemia

Duchcov, okr Teplice, Bohemia

Grødeby, Aaker sn, Bornholm

Klein Plasten, Kr. Waren, >Bez. Neubrandenburg, Germany

Kostolná p. D., okr Galanta, Slovakia

Libês^ovice, okr Louny, Bohemia

Ludanice, okr Topol'c^any, Slovakia

Mistelbach, Bez. M., Niederösterreich, Austria

Nebovidy, okr Kolín, Bohemia

Nehvizdy, okr Prag-Ost, Bohemia

Nymburk, okr N., Bohemia

Obr^istvi, okr Mêlnik, Bohemia

Odr^epsi, okr Nymburk, Bohemia

Ohnis^t^any, okr Hradec Králové, Bohemia

Parutino(Olbiya), rn Oc^akov, obl. Nikolaev, Ukraine

Poc^edëlice, okr Louny, Bohemia

Prag-VysoC^any, Bohemia

Púchov, okr Povaz^ská Bystrica, Slovakia

Tr^ebenice, okr Litomêr^ice, Bohemia

Tuklaty, okr Kolín, Bohemia

Wissenfels, Kr. W., Bez Halle/Saale

plus 10 sites in Poland


Liste 12 : Fibeln des Typs A.237 (Variante A.237b)
Nach J.Garbsch, a.a.O.

Budimer^ice, okr Nymburk, Bohemia

Dobr^ichov-Pic^hora, okr Kolín, Bohemia

Kne^z^eves, okr Rakovník, Bohemia

Parutino(Olbiya), rn Oc^akov, obl Nikolayev, Ukraine

Rötha-Geschwitz, Kr. Borna, Bez. Leipzig, Germany

Ve^trus^ice, okr Prag-Ost, Bohemia

plus 0 sites in Poland


Noht näher bestimmbare Fibeln der Form A.236b,c -
A237b. Vgl. J.Garbsch,a.a.O.

Grebieten, Kr. Fischhausen, East Prussia

unkn. location, Romania

plus 3 sites in Poland


Statistic data on the Przeworsk distribution inhumation/cremation
from:
Fibelkombinationen aus geschlossenen Grabinventaren der
Przeworsk-Kultur
Zeitstufe IIa-c

Statistic data on the Oksywie distribution inhumation/cremation from:
Fibelkombinationen aus geschlossenen Grabinventaren der
pommerisch-unterweidhselländischen Kulturen (Oksywie/
Oxhöft-K. und "goto-gepidische Kultur) der Spätphase
der jüngeren vorrömischen Eisezeit und der Zeitstufe
B1 ( - B2) der älteren römischen Kaiserzeit.





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