Re: [tied] Intro

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:44:11 +0000, Richard Wordingham
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

>> Fricatives:
>> *s
>> *h1 *h2 *h3 (laryngeals). Also written H1, H2, H3.
>> Unspecified laryngeal *H.
>
>There is a potential confusion here between aspiration and a
>laryngeal. That's why the commoner notation here is to use "H" for
>aspiration, and "h" for laryngeal.

There can be no confusion in my notation:

dh1 = d + h1
dh2 = d + h2
dh3 = d + h3
dH = d + h?
dh = dh
dhh1 = dh + h1
dhh2
dhh3
dhH = dh + h?

If you use dH for the aspirate, then the unspecified
laryngeal must be written <h>.

Combinations of voiceless stop + laryngeal (e.g. *t + *h2)
developed into voiceless aspirates, which I can write as th
(ph, kh) without fear of confusion. In the other system pH,
tH, kH.

>To associate the laryngeals with vowels, number across the bottom of
>the (compressed) vowel trapezium:
>
>e a o
>1 2 3

One occasionally sees (not on this forum) the laryngeals
notated as capital vowels: E A O.

>Miguel's statement that PIE didn't have /h/ is misleading. On
>typological grounds, it ought to have had [h], and as all words seem
>to have begun with consonants, it should also have had [?]. It is
>quite likely that their reflexes have merged so completely that all
>we can reconstruct is *h1 for the two of them.

Yes. My statement was meant to mean that no confusion can
arise bvecause we don't use the notation /h/, we use /h1/,
/h2/, /h3/ instead.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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