From: Âàäèì Ïîíàðÿäîâ
*wey-es.>>> Hitt. we:s and Gothic we:s are from
>>whether intervocaloic *-y- was lost in Hitt. and Goth. I don't know about Gothic, but Hittite doesn't seem to have such a soundlaw.
>>Before accepting, it needs to be determinated
> Yes ithas. Melchert, p. 130: "Intervocalic */y/ is
> I see that Starostin reconstructs them for Proto-NWCaucasian (Abxaz-Adyghe). Like PIE, NW Caucasian has also
> lost thevowels *i and *u, and the vocalic features of
> labialization andpalatalization have been transferred en
> masse to the consonants.Something similar no doubt
> happened in PIE.L&M, labialized labials also occur in living
> According to
> languages of theCaucasus (and elsewhere), but I wouldn't
> know off-hand whichones.
> In any case, there's nothing impossible about labializedlabials. They're just more likely to be lost quickly than
>labialized dentals, which are more likely to be lost than
> labializedvelars. PIE has only retained the labialized
> velars *kW, *gW and*ghW as full-fledged phonemes. There
> are traces of *sW and*tW. The labialized labials can only
> be deduced from irregularsound correspondences within IE
> (*m ~ *w [1pl. *-men ~ *-wen], *p ~ *kW[*wl.p- ~ *wl.kW-
> "wolf"], *bh ~ *ghW [*bhen- ~ *ghWen-"beat"], etc.).
*-th2a-i. Even if it were from *-th2-i directly, that> Hittite 2sg. -ti is the hi-conjugation ending, presumably
> does notconsitute evidence against the solid soundlaw *ti >
> (z)zi: thecluster *th2 might simply have merged with *dh
> here, and the regularoutcome is *dhi > ti (and *di > si).
>>In fact, the question on Hittite palatalization *ti > ziis not so clear as it is commonly assumed. Sometimes it no doubt exists, but there are examples where the palatalization is not found.
> I don't see the relevance of English 3sg. -s.
*þu,> German 2sg. -st is 2sg. *-s plus the 2nd. person pronoun
an> du (e.g. bis du > bistu > bist du). Tocharian does have
> undeniable 2sg. ending *-t, but it's not necessary to derivethat all the way back to PIE: it is most likely either a
> middle/stativeending *-th2a(-), or an agglutinated personal
> pronoun *tu.
>>It is a very strange situation when certain sounds are moreused in suffixes than in roots.
> It's rather common, actually.To give just one example: in
> PIE, the long diphthong *-o:i is verycommon in grammatical
> endings (dat.sg., ins.pl.), but very rareelsewhere.