Re: [tied] Re: Eggs from birds and swift horses

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 31318
Date: 2004-03-02

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:56:47 +0000, elmeras2000
<jer@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <petegray@...> wrote:
>> > I think that Sprachbund [Gk, I-I, Armenian] is a mirage. What
>else has it
>> going for it
>> > except the augment?
>>
>> -osyo genitive
>
>Faliscan Kaisiosio, Old dialectal Latin popliosio.

In Celtic, we have Old Lepontic -oiso < *-osyo.

The later Lepontic ending is -i:, as in Gaulish, and as can
be reconstructed for Insular Celtic, and as the later Latin
ending. The fact that both Latin and Celtic have old forms
reflecting *-osyo and young forms apparently reflecting *-i:
suggests to me that this is no coincidence, and that the
ending -i: must in fact be derived from *-osyo (or its
pronominal variant *-esyo). I think that in Latin we can
even see some of the intermediate stages attested. The
pronoun *ís, *ésyo gives Latin is, e:ius. Final -s is
secondary, so the form reflects stressed *ésyo with loss of
-s- and compensatory lengthening of the /e/. With stressed
*-ósyo the result is -u:ius (*-ósyo > *-óhyo > *-ó:io >
*-ú:iu + s), as in hu:ius, cu:ius. When the ending was
unstressed, we have -i:u(s) in the pronominal forms
(isti:us, illi:us, uni:us), reflecting *-osyo or *-esyo >
*-oio/*-eio > *-i:u, again with -s added. In the o-stem
ending -i:, the development may have been *-osyo > *-o(:)io
> *-i:(u) > *-i:, both in Latin and in Celtic. The
Celtiberian and Osco-Umbrian developments are slightly
different. We may also assume for both early loss of /s/ in
the cluster /sy/, and in Celtiberian a development parallel
to that in Greek: *-oyo > *-oo > -o: (the Celtiberian Gen.
ending is written -o, wich cannot reflect the ablative
*-o:d, which gives -uz, nor the instrumental *-o: which
gives -u). In Osco-Umbrian, after the loss of -s-, an -s
was added at the end (as in the Latin pronominal forms),
eventually resulting in confusion with the i-stem Gen.
ending *-eis.

>Germanic *-asa < *-oso may also reflect *-osyo.
>Wherever we find -sy-
> in endings in Sanskrit, Germanic reflects simple -s-, which could
>be by sound change.

Germanic (Gothic) also has *-esa < *-esyo. Slavic has
maintained the ending *-esyo in the single pronoun c^eso <
*kWesyo.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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