[tied] Re: Decebalus, help needed

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 30967
Date: 2004-02-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> >> Alex
> > ************
> > About the first element of <Burebista>, I claim that Alb.
> > <burrë> 'man, warrior, ruler' (cf. <Burri i botës> or pl.
<burrat e
> > botës> 'rulers of the world' , semantically comparable with
>
> We comme again to that ominous (for me) "i" and "e"(pl). Is this
in this
> case just a simple adjectival "Gelenkartikel" or it is a genitival
one ?
>
> > pers. 'gihangir'), again a neuter plural, was very much spreaded
> > even in Middle Age. For example, most known aristocratic Serbian
> > family bears the name <Burmazoviqi>, replacing /dh/ > /z/ as in
many
> > place names, derived from Alb. <burr-a-madh> 'big ruler, warrior,
> > man'.
>
> a-madh here should mean "the big". There is the same as the
Rom. "ãl
> mare". In fact I don't wonder since the way to build the sentences
are
> in Rom. and Alb. almost identical.( of course not in Literary Rom.
which
> tried to give a Romance look & feel).
>
> > Your claim: "I was afraid to put the Alb word here. The meaning
will
> > make a sense but it souns like a name give by foreigners to
> > Decebalos and not a name given by his folk. Usualy one will call
his
> > leader "Our Leader" not "Our (folks_name) Leader)" is a argument
> > more of others, like Harwey Mayer, that think Romanians were not
> > Dacians at all.
> >
> > Konushevci
> > Konushevci
>
> Well, there are a lot who thinks so and maybe they are right. When
the
> only criteria is the language, they should be right. And right are
they
> when they mean a such folk has no roots. They could have been
everything
> and nothing. Thus, maybe they are some ancient Balkan folk or just
a mob
> of different races and colours ex tuto urbe romanum, thus
newcommers in
> Balkan.
>
> Alex
************
No, Alb. -a- is Gelenkartikel, which was replaced later with -i- and
probably -e- in Albanian and other languages (cf. Butidosa < Alb.
byth-a-dosa 'buttocks of sow'), etc.

Konushevci