The palatal sham :) (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian (1))

From: tgpedersen
Message: 30936
Date: 2004-02-10

--- In, "P&G" <petegray@...> wrote:
> >if there
> > were indeed loans taking place between IE branches, ...,
> > any reconstruction attempt we make of that elusive first language
> > will be garbled by mysterious alternations we can't account for.
> Not necessarily. Sometimes we are able to perceive the basic
pattern, and
> from that identify the loan word and discount it. Discounting
evidence in
> order to make a pattern is a dubious practice, but the other way
round -
> finding the pattern, then treating the aberration as a loan - is not
> uncommon. A typical example is the well attested pattern:
> medial *bh > b in Latin (ruber etc)
> Then the word rufus can be assumed to be a loan from another
dialect in
> which *bh > f medially. This is secure only because the basic
pattern is so
> well attested.
> A second example is Grimm's/Verner's law. Because this is so well
> established, we can assume that words in Germanic langauges that do
not show
> this are loan words.
> But where the patterns are not secure, doubts can remain.

Thank you very much.
And if you continue past the first year of linguistics, you'll even
get to exciting theories, such as the one in which all PIE roots
with /a/ are loans.