Re: [tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 19:49:54 +0100, altamix <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>>
>> No. I showed that you were trying to compare Romanian a:-stems with
>> Lithuanian thematics.
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/23608
>
>Look Miguel, you sustain that the II Latin conjugation was generlised
>over all in "s" droping Romance, aka Italian and Romanian.

Of course I don't.

>So, let's see the following table:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Due inheritance < Latin : (-u), - i, -e, - im, -iTi , -(u)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> | | | | | |
>Conj I ( a- stem) : -(u), - i, -ã, - ãm, -aTi , -ã
>Conj II,(ea- stem) : -(u), - i, -e, - em, -eTi , -e
>Conj III,( e- stem) : -(u), - i, -e, - em, -eTi, , -e
>Conj IV,( i- stem) : -(u), - i, -e, - im, -iTi, , -e
> | | | | | |

Leaving palatalization aside, the expected and actual endings are:

-o: > -0/-u
-a:s > -ã (I) -i
-at > -ã
-a:mus > -ám (II) -ã'm
-a:tis > -áte (III) -atzi
-ant > -ã

-eo: > -0/-u
-e:s > -e (I) -i
-et > -e
-e:mus > -em
-e:tis > -ete (III) -etzi
-ent > -e (IV) -0

-io: > -0/-u
-i:s > -i
-it > -e
-i:mus > -im
-i:tis > -ite (III) -itzi
-iunt > -0/-u

-(i)o: > -0/-u
-is > -e (I) -i
-it > -e
-imus > -em
-itis > -ete (III) -etzi
-(i)unt> -0/-u

There are only four irregular developments:

(I) In the second person sg., the ending of the i-stems, the only
conjugation where a difference between 2nd and 3rd person remained after
the loss of -s and -t, has been generalized.

(II) -ám becomes -ã'm

(III) In the 2nd. person plural, the ending -te becomes -ti > -tzi, under
influence of the 2nd person singular generalized ending -i.

(IV) The 3pl. of the e:-stems gets the (zero) ending of e-stems and
i:-stems. Dialectically, the ending is even generalized to the a:-stems.

>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>PIE as reconstructed : *-o , *- e, *-et, *-VmVs, *-VtV(s), *-Vnt
>----------------------------------------------------------------------

PIE as reconstructed is in fact:

thematic: *-o:, *-esi, *-eti, *-omes, *-ete, *-ont
athematic: *-mi, *-si, *-ti, *-mes, *-te, *-nt


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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