Re: [tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 30666
Date: 2004-02-04

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 21:24:39 +0100, altamix <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

>We take the best examples we have here:
>Lat. "dia" > Rom "ziuã"
>Lat. "deus" > Rom. "zeu"
>Lat "di:cere" > Rom. "zice"
>Lat. "diana" > Rom. "zânã"
>Lat "decem" > Rom. "zece"
>All the Latin words should have been in PBR as follow:
>dea, dEus, dicere, deana

díe, dEu > djéu, dícere, djána, dEce > djéce, in fact.

>From the phonological system here, just 2 of 5 words _can_ derive from

BS. _All_ of them.

>Thus :
>There can be a dEcem >diecem > dz'ece >zece ( expected is zeace as in
>Tthere can be an dEus > dieus > dz'eus > zeu
>There cannot be an dicere > zice since the "i" in "zi" is not to explain , e
>> i just before nasal

di:cere > zice. No problem.

>There canot be an dia > ziuã because "i" cannot be explained and "u" cannot
>be explained

/i/ can be explained (the Latin is díe:s > díe > zí), and /u/ can be
explained, and has been explained multiple times here:

die illa > ziua, like stella illa > steaua. Ziuã is a backformation on teh
regular definite form ziua (also zile < die ille).

>There cannot be a diana > "zânã" since there are too much transfromations
>:"ia" > "ea" > "iea" > "ea" > "a" >"ã" > "â"

Still struggling the basics, I see... Diana (=/djana/, already in Latin) >
zânã. No problem.

Miguel Carrasquer Vidal