[tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian *3 /

Hello Piotr,
"No, you're comparing apples with oranges."

Once again you supposed that I said more than I said. I never said
that Albanian words below have a same reflex similar with Romanian 3i
from Latin di, in that cases.
More exactly :
"ep-Albanians had 'some problems' , to reproduced Latin /di/."

Each of the examples below clearly shows the sentence above and I
said nothing more than that.

I linked Albanian case with ep-Romanians ONLY to signaled that
Albanians had "some problems" too, with the stability of Lat. /di/ in
the examples below...

Best Regards,
marius alexandru

P.S. AT LEAST you could supposed that I know that Lat. directus give
Rom. drept so it had nothing to do with /3i/...


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 03-02-04 16:39, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > I'm obliged to put in equation this fact too, because it shows
> > that ep-Albanians had 'some problems' too, to reproduced

Latin /di/.

> >
> > Lat. dirigere Alb. drejtoj
> > Lat. directus Alb. derjt
> > Lat. vir[i]dis Alb. i/e verdhë 'yellow'
> > Lat. judicare Alb. gjykoj
> > Lat. medicus Alb. mjek
> >
> > Conclusions: Both lp-Albanians and ep-Romanians HAD PROBLEMS

to

> > reproduce the Latin /di/. I don't know how this Latin /di/ was
> > pronounced but for sure BOTH Romanians and Albanians had problems

to

> > reproduce it.
> >
> > So you have to review your Albanian examples based on the
> > Reflexes of Latin /di/ in Albanian (in order to establish the

correct

> > correpondances with the Reflexes of Latin /di/ in Romanian)...
>
> No, you're comparing apples with oranges. Proto-Albanian did

palatalise

> *tj and *dj (> *c^, 3^, differently from Proto-Romanian), but

tolerated

> *di-/*ti- (as well as *die-/*tie-) both in inherited words and in

Latin

> ones. In <diréctu-> the second syllable was stressed, so the first

one

> got reduced (as it often is in English <directly> --> "drec(t)ly");

this

> has nothing to do with avoiding /di-/. In <iu:dica:re> and

<medicus> the

> /d/ was intervocalic and was regularly lost as such; the quality of

the

> following vowel was immaterial.
>
> Piotr