Re: [tied] Re: Late Proto Albanian *3 /dz/ = Early Proto Romanian

03-02-04 16:39, alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> I'm obliged to put in equation this fact too, because it shows
> that ep-Albanians had 'some problems' too, to reproduced Latin /di/.
>
> Lat. dirigere Alb. drejtoj
> Lat. directus Alb. derjt
> Lat. vir[i]dis Alb. i/e verdhë 'yellow'
> Lat. judicare Alb. gjykoj
> Lat. medicus Alb. mjek
>
> Conclusions: Both lp-Albanians and ep-Romanians HAD PROBLEMS to
> reproduce the Latin /di/. I don't know how this Latin /di/ was
> pronounced but for sure BOTH Romanians and Albanians had problems to
> reproduce it.
>
> So you have to review your Albanian examples based on the
> Reflexes of Latin /di/ in Albanian (in order to establish the correct
> correpondances with the Reflexes of Latin /di/ in Romanian)...

No, you're comparing apples with oranges. Proto-Albanian did palatalise
*tj and *dj (> *c^, 3^, differently from Proto-Romanian), but tolerated
*di-/*ti- (as well as *die-/*tie-) both in inherited words and in Latin
ones. In <diréctu-> the second syllable was stressed, so the first one
got reduced (as it often is in English <directly> --> "drec(t)ly"); this
has nothing to do with avoiding /di-/. In <iu:dica:re> and <medicus> the
/d/ was intervocalic and was regularly lost as such; the quality of the
following vowel was immaterial.

Piotr