Re: Genetic Link between Albanian and Romanian

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
>
> > 03-02-04 03:02, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> >
> >> First of all, I think that were much bigger authorities in
> >> Albanology, like Gustav Meyer, Norbert Jokl, Holger Pedersen,

Paul

> >> Kretschmer, Eqrem Çabej, Carlo Tagliavini, Waclaw Cimochowski,
> >> Radoslav Katicich, Shaban Demiraj, Eric Hamp - all proclaimed
> >> linguists and albanologists in the world, that backed up the
> >> origin of Albanian language from Illyrian,
> > [...]
> > First, it isn't true that all of the above great linguists

support

> > the Illyrian hypothesis. Jokl and Cimochowski do so with some
> > reservations; Hamp refrains from speculating about Illyrian and
> > is more or less agnostic about the whole question, while Weigand
> > connects Albanian with Thracian and Dacian.
>
> Just for fun, let's quote from C. Tagliavini's "Le origini delle
> lingue neolatine":
> "In Southern part of Illyria, in a region roughly corresponding
> to ancient Dardania, an Indo-European people, maybe [!] a mixture
> of Illyrians and Thracians [!], was about to be linguistically
> Romanized. It's Albanian people.
> While the craddle of Albanian language is highly uncertain, all
> researchers agree nowdays to assert it to a region North of today
> Albania and far enough from the sea; the presence of a large number
> of Latin elements and of a reduced number of ancient Greek elements
> makes us think, anyway, to a region North of Jirecek line. [...]".
> Not quite the same, eh?! :-)
> Also E. Hamp, even in a review article available also online, is
> far from being so decisive, describing the issue as "the

troublesome

> and inconclusive question of Illyrian and Thracian, and their
> possible relation to Albanian" and ends out with "Clearly, the

whole

> question remains completely open".
> (http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/balkan/ehamp.html)
>
> > Secondly, in science it's sound argumentation that matters, not
> > "bigger authorities".
>
> Agreed; moreover, some of those "auctoritae" were not so keen to
> an unconditional support of exclusive Illyrian descent. I think
> this is still a fairly undecidable issue since information is low.
>
> Regards,
> Marius Iacomi

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Dear Marius,
I think it is not fair and morally correct to put under inverted
comas "auctoritae" (probably you mean "auctoritatae") scholars who
devoted one human life to Albanian language and to praize others who
are not able even to read correctly Albanian language.
For me this thread is closed and I was not one who is based in
authority (Lat. auctoritas, -tatis). Many of my arguments appears
for the first time only in Cybalist, but I hope, that I will be
forced, after I have done some deeper researches, to make Illyrian
onomasticon. But, when we talk about <authorities>, lets talk about
true one.

Konushevci