Re: [tied] Re: Estimated timeframe of albanian s->sh transformation

30-01-04 17:19, alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> Hello,
> I tried to redo my intervals based on this assumption "2
> generations" --> 60 years
> Where I have problems is that I don't imagine how on such short
> scale :
> c^ -> s could overlap with s->sh (what overlap really mean in
> this case : 30 years?? Does this make sense?),
> also how the loans in other languages are still possible in such
> short intervals.
>
> Piotr, could you post you estimations please ? Will be very
> helpful.

Sorry, I can't make my estimates any more precise -- not for a
reconstructed, undocumented language. My guess is the the two processes
were roughly simultaneous. The change from *c/*z to *T/*D (= Mod.Alb.
<th>/<d(h)>) was probably a little earlier. By eliminating a pair of
dental affricates it paved the way for the fronting of the postalveolar
ones; and by creating a new pair of dental fricatives it provided the
motivation for then retraction of *s/*z. The shift was complete. Tout se
tien.

Piotr