Re: [tied] Re: PIE Ploughs

Hey, you don't *really* mean "*-dHlom" with a voiced aspirate? Has my poor
wife Birgit Olsen been preaching in vain that the IE alternation was
*-tlo-/*-thlo- (after roots without liquids) ~ *-tro-/-thro- (after roots
containing a liquid), in both cases with the aspirate restricted to the
position after non-syllabified laryngeals H1 and H2?

Balto-Slavic has generalized -l- and so is of little value for the
assessment of the distribution of the liquids. Since Baltic has only
*-tl-, I would suppose Slavic -dl- is the product of IE *-tl-.

There are no examples of *-dhlo-/*-dhro- following a voiced aspirate known
to me. The reconstruction with a voiced aspirate seems only to be a myth.

Don't get the tenor of this note wrong. Birgit's thesis is not above
criticism, so if she is wrong, let's hear what exactly is amiss.

Jens

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> 20-01-04 23:33, Sergejus Tarasovas wrote:
>
> > For what it's worth, Lith. <árklas> (<*h2erh3tlom, with Baltic
> > *tl>kl) means mostly 'a primitive wooden plow' (originally something
> > like a bole with the branches only partially lopped off -- cf. Slavic
> > *soxá 'primitive wooden plow; stick with a fork' and Lith.
> > <s^akà> 'branch', <s^ãke:s> '(pitch)fork').
>
> Ah, of course, I forgot. So we have nearly all the variants of the
> instrumental suffix -- *-trom, *-tlom and *-dHlom -- with the *h2arh3-
> root. It looks more like independent derivation than an inherited item.
>
> Piotr
>
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