[tied] Re: Saxon wanum "bright"

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>
> >The source of Vanir is North East Caucasian, not Kartvelian.
>
> I thought we had all established that it was Indo-European. Wasn't
> there an etymon reconstructed like *wensu?

Hello, dear Glen!
/*wensu-/ ??? Perhaps you hybridized /*ansu-/ with /*wani-/, but it
doesn't matter. No one of these items is really IE.

> >I think that the ultimate source, found also in Etruscan /Vanth/ is
> >a verbal root meaning "to speak". Semantic shift would be clear:
> >/Vanth/ = Fatum; /(w)anaks/ < "who gives orders".
>
> This seems like a bad re-hashing of my previously posted idea that
> Vanth, the Etruscan protectoress of the dead, was somehow
> connected with the origin of Greek /anax/ and also connected
> to the Hattic Wurun-katti "Ruler of the realm", a war god.

I didn't read your previously posted idea. But the suggestion of a
relationship between /Vanth/ and /(w)anaks/ was already made by
Massimo Pallottino. About /Wurun-katti/, I think that /katti/ is
enough, as it derives from /*kwan-ti/. And is this /*kwan-ti/ to
provide the Pre-Greek root /*kwan-/. I think that the protoform has
really a /*gw-/ cluster, so /*gwan-/ > /*wan-/.
You convoluted attempts are similar to those of a little lilliputian
drowning in a glass of water. Cast /wurun-/ out of the window, things
will appear more clear to you.

Marco