Alb. "z" ( it was Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.
> >
> >
> >
> >> That is that. How can one show there was no "s^" in that time in
> >> BecomingAlbanian but there has been an "z^" ?
> >
> > There wasn't!! *s and *z became respectively *s^ and *z^ much

later.

> > The gaps they left in the phonological system of Old Albanian were
> > filled by older *c^ and *3^, which have become Modern Albanian /s/
> > and /z/.
> >
> > Piotr
>
> Which *s and *z do you mean here? The PIE *s and *z?
>
> Now to this "z". There is a difference in Alb. between "z" and "dh".
> Now, there is in Alb. and Rom. for instance the
> common suffix zã/zë which in Alb. is different from suffix "-dhe" or
> "-dhë" ( equivalent of Rom. suffix -dã)
>
> Since you say that the Modern Albanian /z/ is coming from an *3^I

have

> to admit in Rom. the /z/ in this suffix is too coming from an

*3^which

> is false.
> Then the /z/ in Modern Albanian must be old , at least as old as in

Rom.

> The last question here should be interesting for Abdullah. Are

there in

> Albanians archaic & regional forms of the words which have variants

of

> "z" as "z^" or "gj-"?
>
> Alex

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Dear Alex,
I am sorry, but I am not aware about such variants: "z" as "zh"
or "gj-" - at least in historic times.

Regards,
Konushevci