[tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

From: Marco Moretti
Message: 29429
Date: 2004-01-12

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:05:50 +0000, Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
> wrote:
>
> >Marco inputs:
> >>Akkadian /eru:/ is not from /*weru:/.
> >
> >Alright. Where _is_ it from?
>
> The usual transcription erĂ»(m) (not eru:) suggests a contracted
vowel,
> probably /i/ + /u/. I think the form can be reconstructed as
*weri?-u(m)
> (acc. *weri?-a(m), etc.), but that's based on old notes, I'm not
100% sure.
>
> An interesting word in this context is the Hebrew for copper, <?
arad>
> (aleph-resh-daleth).

In Akkadian final -u:(m) (I have no characters with circumflex
accents on my keybord, in Italy they are considered useless) can be
not only from /i/ + /u/ but also from /a/ + /u/ or from /u/ + /u/.
A Sumerian word ending in /-a/ is almost always borrowed in Akkadian
as ending in -u:(m) (the /-m/ is the "mimation", a kind of
undeterminate article, is always necessary to write it?).
If I'm not wrong, Sumerian /sanga/ "a kind of effeminate priest" was
appears in Akkadian as /sangu:(m)/.
Now, I know the Hebrew word /?ara:d/, "bronze", but I'm not satisfied
with an ancient /w/ becoming /?/ in Hebrew. /?ara:d/ is probably
unrelated both with /eru:(m)/ and with /urudu/, due to impervious
phonetic difficulties. What's its source? At this moment I don't
know, I beg your pardon for my ignorance.

Regards

Marco