Re: Nordwestblock self-designation?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> Solution: 'Jute' is the common designation of all non-Germanic half-
> assimilated 'aboriginal' peoples, especially in the Northwest. It

is

> known from archaeology that West Jutland was not invaded with the
> rest of Denmark at the beginning of our era. Thus all Nordwestblock-
> speakers and West Jutes. Until the 18th century the derogatory
> designation in Finland and Sweden (same country then) for the Danes
> was Jutar, especially in war contexts. It is puzzling that they
> should use that word as a derogatory name, unless the Jutes were
> perceived as particularly backward. It would make sense within
> Denmark, of course, to use the word that way, but this crosses the
> border between countries, which is unprecedented. One can't use a
> solution à la the French use of the Aleman name for all Germans,
> Jutland is on the far side, seen from Sweden.

Also: Finnish 'Juutanrauma' (now I can't find the reference, so
excuse any errors in the spelling) for the Øresund strait between
Sjælland and Scania, hundreds of kilometers from any Jute today. If
the word arrived with a Germanic invasion of Finland and Estonia 2000
years ago (archaeology says someone moved in then, but recent
consensus is that Finno-Ugric speakers are older in that area, and
Snorri's account fits in nicely again), note that -rauma is a
Germanic loanword, then most of Denmark, especially Sjælland, which
was conquered later, would have been in the hands of 'Jutes', ie. non-
Germanic, non-Celtic Nordwest people.

Torsten