Re: [tied] RE: etyma for =?UNKNOWN?Q?Cr=E3ciun=2C?= RomanianforChris

28-12-03 16:23, alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> Hello Mate,
>
> You said :
> " and a Slavic etymon is the only possible since the word is
> found in Slavic, Hungarian and Romanian.
> Mate "
>
> So just to resume a little Applied Logic here that belong to Mate :
>
> " If we have 3 different languages a,b,c and a common word x in
> these languages
> if a is a Slavic language than x is a Slavic Word."

Aren't you fighting a straw man of your own making? Of course there are
Slavic words of Romanian origin, and even Albanian words borrowed into
Slavic via Romanian (one example from my native Polish is <watra> 'a
fire' in the dialect of the Tatra highlanders). I can't speak for Mate,
but as a result of the present discussion I'm inclined to accept the
Balkan Romance etymology of <koroc^jun> etc., with borrowing from
Romanian into Slavic rather than the other way round.

>
> Is there any logic logic here? Could you correct this ?
>
> Unfortunately, you are not the first : 'balta' and 'dalta', and
> not only, (words present in both Albanian and Romanian) are treated
> by some Romanian pro-slavic scholars in the same way : Slavic words.
> They seems to ignore WHEN this loans could appears...because the
> possible timeframe is very very very short....

That's why there are so few of them. And who ignores those temporal
constraints? We had a long discussion of them here some time ago. I'm
not going to bring back subjects already argued and explained in great
detail, but if you still want to claim that <daltã> is of Slavic origin,
I can only shrug. Check the archives to see why.

Piotr