Re: [tied] numeral ( it was Romanian Swadesh list -> 10% substratua

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 28269
Date: 2003-12-09

09-12-03 20:52, alex wrote:

> there is one, absolutely no one example of Latin /e:/ becoming in Rom.
> "ei". The only one where you want to find it is the 3 "trei".

No-one said Lat. /e:/ gave Rom. /ei/. It's just an artifact of your
blank incomprehension. But comprehension problems are curable: just sit
back, relax and try to concentrate. When the mist disperses for a minute
and your inner eye begins to see clearly, read on and follow the light:

Lat. tre:s > *tres > trei, where the palatal glide represents the
_regular_ weakening and vocalisation of _final /-s/_ in monosyllabic words:

VLat. t r e s >
Rom. t r e i

The fact that the vowel is /e/ is of little importance. The same happens
after any other vowel:

VLat. n o s >
Rom. n o i

Also when *-s comes from a reduced final cluster: post > *pos > It. poi,
Rom. (a)poi; cf. also the other examples given so far.

> It seems
> it is enough to make a rule out of it. Do it, I have nothing against it
> since the poor Thracians are all dead and cannot come here to say: Pani
> Piotr, co ti tam delas^i?

If it's to be Polish rather than Thracian, it should read "Piotrze, co
tam robisz?" or (more formally) "Panie Piotrze, co pan tam robi?"

Piotr