[tied] Re: Romanian Swadesh list

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 08-12-03 13:39, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> > Rom. <scrum>, Alb. shkrum 'ash' with secondary form <shkrumb> I

guess

> > is a prefixed o-grade form of PIE *krom- 'heat, fire' (cf. Lat.
> > cremare, carbon).
>
> That would make it similar to Late Latin excremo: 'burn out'. But

isn't

> it rather <sh-> + *krus-mo- (cf. Gk. kru:mos, kruos 'frost', Lat.

crusta

> 'crust') from *kreus- 'form a crust' (hence 'cold ashes')? Anyway,

we

> seem to have one (1) arguably substratal item in the 100-word

Swadesh

> list for Romanian.
>
> Piotr

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Based generally in semantics, I believe once upon a time (four month
ago) that I have hit the etymology of Alb. <shkrum> 'ash'. Reading
later about semantic shift, I believe that you are damn right, cause
we have another soundlaw in Albanian: SM > M: *smek-ru > mjekër'
chin, beard' and *esmi- > Alb. jam '(I) am'. So, suffixed zero-grade
form *krus-mo- fit perfectly Alb. prefixed form sh-krum 'ash'.

Konushevci