Proper methodology (was: RE: [tied] Re: Mother of all IE languages)

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 28041
Date: 2003-12-06

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:54:18 +0000, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...>
wrote:
> >> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:48:47 +0000, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Does this mean that Japanese once had pronouns, which were
> >replaced?
> >>
> >> Vovin reconstructs PJap *ban "I, we", *sO- and *na "thou, you".
> >>
> >
> >Do you have a reference?
>
> My direct source is Alexander Vovin, "Nostratic and Altaic", in:
> Salmons/Joseph, "Nostratic, Sifting the evidence", Benjamins 1998.
>
> More details should be found in other works by Sasha Vovin, more
> specifically dedicated to Old/Proto-Japanese.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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Roy Andrew Miller "Japanese and the Other Altaic Languages"
(1971) gives Old Japanese:
nom./oblique
sg 1-p mi: / wan-u
sg 2-p si / son-e

'Mi' apparently mostly (but not entirely) occurred in the form
'mimi', usually interpreted mi + mi "honorific + body", which Miller
rejects.