Re: [tied] OE "afor"

From: alex
Message: 27984
Date: 2003-12-05

alexandru_mg3 wrote:
> Hello Alex,
> For the stem 'apr', I tried to put in relation :
>
> <lat. apricus
> "sunny, having lots of sunshine; warmed by/exposed to/open to the
> sun, basking;"
> <dac. aprus -> 'unknown meaning';
> (same plant at Dioskurides)
>
> and also thinking to a possible relation (as cognate) to the
> <rom. aprig (even its meaning is not quite the same, I imagined
> for 'aprig' -> 'related to the warm/power of the sun')
>
> From Dan received message (see below) seems that :
> "apricus" is related
> old Germ. âbar ld Germ. âbar; mid. Germ. aeber, = dry,
> warm orig., lying open, uncovered
> What could be the PIE for old Germ. âbar?
>
> Miguel proposal was at that moment was : "*ap" + *rei-" :
>
>
> If you have any idea in the above direction please tell me.
> In any case I wasn't very happy with the result at that moment,
> however is not impossible.
>
> Best Regards,
> marius a.

Latin apricus=sonnig, besonnt, sonnig, warm contrary to opacus;
provenience unclear; maybe *aperi-cos (to *aperio). PIe root can be
*aphro- related to Germ. "frei", s. privus
At least so my Walde-Hoffmann. The semantic aspect does not fit the
Germanic "abar".
The semantic aspect of apricus appears to fit -regarding the sun,
lights- the Rom. "aprins" which is a derivative of "aprinde". Aprins as
adjective regarding sun & light means intense.
The nasal in Rom. appear to be a little problem here and the whole chain
at all since rom. "a aprinde" ( to light (up); to kindle; (lumina) to
switch on, to put on, to turn on; to set fire to; (fig) to rouse, to
arouse; (tehn) ignite
vr to take fire; (la fata) to blush, to turn red; (a se enerva) to grow
angry) is seen as vbeing derivate from Latin "appre[he]ndere".

The semantic aspect of "aprinde" fits with "apricus"; the semantic
aspect of Latin "apprehendere" _is not_ the semantic aspect of rom.
"aprinde"; but I know many people see more strange semantic evolution as
being OK if they did happen via Latin > Rom.

Ale