Re: Atuatuci

From: tgpedersen
Message: 27957
Date: 2003-12-04

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...>
wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > The Atuatuci was a part of the Cimbri that the main force had
left
> > behind in the present Belgium, between Sambre and Meuse. Caesar
> > learns (VI,2,3) that "Nervios, Atuatucos, Menapios adiunctis
> > Cisrhenanis omnibus Germanis esse in armis", thus the Atuatici,
> hence
> > the Cimbri are not Germanic? Is there a Germanic etymology for
> their
> > name?
> >
> > Torsten
> ***********
> http://www.livius.org/caa-can/caesar/caesar_t07.html
> gives a translation of Caesar with a footnote:
> "They were descended from the Cimbri and Teutones [2]
> Note 2:
> This is probably based on the likeness of the names Teutones and
> Atuatuci, both being derived from a Germanic word
meaning 'people' ."
>
> Note that there are two ideas here: 1) Caesar (or his
> informant) noted a likeness between "Teutones" and "Atuatuci",
> and 2) this likeness reflects an etymological reality. If someone
> will explain the initial vowel and the odd termination, I might
> believe it.

Not to mention the un-Verner-like -t- of both words.

Torsten