Re: [tied] All of creation in Six and Seven

> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >That's right. Before "the other IE" was influenced by Semitic.
> >>
> >> Incorrect. Hittite /s^ipta-/.
> >
> >Without the mimation. Aparently a loan from some other Semitic
> >language.
>
> Actually, the Hittites never spelled out the word 7 (they always used the
> logogram <7> [*]), so we don't know how it was pronounced in Hittite.
>
> s^iptamiya- is the name of a beverage (Friedrich: Flüssigkeitsbezeichnung),
> perhaps consisting of seven ingredients. Melchert derives it from
> *septm.-iyo-, where /am/ is the normal development of */m./ in Hittite in
> medial position. In final position we would expect -un, which would mean
> that "7" in Hittite was *s^iptún (unstressed e > i).
>
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Some more details: The numeral is frequently written as 7-an which could
point to a form PAnatolian *siptan- which could however not to back
to PIE *septm. (because PIE *-m. securely gives Hitt. -un so /s^ipta-/
could not be direct descendant either). For the same phonological
reason s^iptamiya- cannot be an intra-Hittite derivation from a
Hitt. cardinal *s^iptam but must go back to PIE if it is *septm. + *iyo-.

all the best,

Harald