Re: [tied] All of creation in Six and Seven

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 27284
Date: 2003-11-16

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:20:39 +0000, elmeras2000 <jer@...> wrote:

>> See my afterthought. Brockelmann et al. were probably using a
>historical
>> transcription with /u:/ for /u/, and, presumably, /i/ and /u/
>for /&/.
>> I'm still puzzled about the stress.
>
>Fine, that's what we're talking about. You are terribly
>misrepresenting Brockelmann's notational practice, though.

Well, I was only guessing.

>Unfortunately, Maho's web page did not help me much when I looked at
>it. It contains no phonology and no accents, only morphological
>charts given information I had already. It only claims to contain
>class-room notes from a course he attended. The -tä forms (with
>short a) are indeed accusatives according to my source, M.Chaine,
>Grammaire éthiopienne, Beyrouth 1938.
>
>I find the occurrence of nunation in the numerals quite bewildering.
>The -t- forms practical all end in -tun, but the short forms only
>have -un here and there.

You've lost me. -tun in Ge'ez?

>Your information that the nunation does not influence the accent is
>confirmed for Proto-Semitic by Sarauw who says so explicitly.

OK. Even though I knew it was true, I was having trouble finding an
explicit formulation of it.

>I remain curious as to where this leads, and I'm gonna need some
>*real* literature to find out, what I have is fortuitous and dated.
>For now, I have not yet seen anything to make me discard the thought
>that a special kind of Semitic accent in a form with mimation could
>be reflected in *septm.´ . Perhaps it should be remembered that it
>does not have to be pan-Semitic, it just has to be some existing
>language old enough to serve as the donor of a loanword entering
>some prestage of Proto-Indo-European. However, if the story of *-C-m
>> Semitic *-C-um is to be correct, it must be older than Proto-
>Semitic.

Well, as I already said, that story must be wrong. The definite nominative
ends in *-u, and there is no mimation or nunation after it.


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