Re: [tied] Re: illyrian lexicon or inventory

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:33:30 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>>>
>>> What I like to stress here is the fact that also another PIE root
>>> *leudh- has similar meaning "to grow up, people, free". From this
>>> root we have Alb. <lenj> 'to be born'<*leudh-n- and <polem> 'people'
>>> < *leudh-m-.
>>
>> but there is Serbian "liudi" too which means "people", doesn't it?
>> the Rom. "lume" means "people" but "world" too and if there is a
>> suffixed form with "-me" of leud(me) that won't be too far.
>
> Nonsense. Lume < Lat. lu:men "light" < *leuksmen. Semantics
> according to Slavic sve^tU "light; world".

hmmmm... I know this explanation that is a bit fussy. There is "luminã"
in Rom. which means "light" which is to compare with Latin "lumen" and
there is "lume" which means folk, people but world too. Every derivative
in Rom. which has to do with light is a derivative from "luminã" but not
from "lume"
"Lume" ( people, world) should derive from Latin "lumen" (light & co)
but it changed its sense because of....Slavic. I am very afraid they are
two different words from two different roots, but I have to show it; my
feeling plays no role here.
Just for fun: what speaks against of *loud + me ? Any thoughts why
*loudme could not give in Rom. "lume"?
I use *loud here and not *leud in the same manner as for Latin there is
too *louksmen and *leuksmen.

>
>>> If we compare Lat. nascor 'to be born' we may see that from the same
>>> root was derived also <natio> 'people' and Slavic <roditi> 'to
>>> beget' and <narod> 'people'.
>>
>> Mmm.. I should like to hear more about Slavic "narod" here if this
>> related to Latin nascor and Rom. "nãscoci". I wonder that happened
>> with this "sc" in slavic if something as *nasko > Slv. narod
>
> Abdullah already gave the origin of na-rod: roditi "to beget".
>
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Right, mia culpa.

Alex