From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 27048
Date: 2003-11-11
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Peter P" <peterp@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
> > In Rom. the things are a bit complicated due the short forms; the
> prep.
> > "spre" given as deriving from Latin "super"
> > means "toward", "to" ("english "to" is for me a bit too
generalised
> and
> > thus I would advice to see "spre" as "toward")
> > Rom, literary:
> > unsprezece (un-spre-zece), one-toward-ten
> > doisprezece (doi-spre-zece), two-toward-ten
> > treisprezece
> > patrusprezece (*)
> > cincisprezece (*)
> > Saisprezece
> > Saptisprezece
> > Optisprezece
> > nouãsprezece
> >
> > Alex
>
> I know nothing about Romanian, but I do know a little
Latin. 'Super'
> means 'above', when used with the accusative, and 'in addition to'
> when used with the ablative. As we count higher and higher from
10,
> I would understand 11 to be 'one above/in addition to 10' rather
> than 'one toward ten'. Presumably if counting up we would have
> already passed 10 and hence would not be going toward 10 but higher
> than.
>
> Then again a native Rom. speaker may see it differently.
>
> Pete p