Re: [tied] Re: Pre-Germanic speculation

From: alex
Message: 26758
Date: 2003-11-01

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 22:37:40 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...>
> wrote:
>
>> I saved on my machine the messages about Germanic of Miguel. I guess
>> I cannot find the feminine Genitive for "-er" like German "der",
>> English "her"(?)
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24546
>
> Under a:-stems:
>
> Gen. *-eh2os > *-a:s *-o:z
> Goth. -o:s, ON -ar, OE -e (-ae), OS -a, OHG -a:
>
> I don't think I talked specifically about the pronominal endings. The
> etymology is the same (*ta:s > *þo:z > G. der), but *-z is maintained
> in West Germanic (as -r) in a monosyllable.
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
>
Thank you Miguel, that was the point for me of the missing "r" here.
What appears interesting is why for masculine it remained *-z, but for
feminine and plural we have the rothacised form of it:
"des bruders" but "der schwester"; "meines" versus fem. "meiner", etc.

Alex