Re: Pre-Germanic speculation

From: tgpedersen
Message: 26683
Date: 2003-10-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "armanddoriot" <armanddoriot@...>
wrote:
> I've read that Germanic peoples might be a non IE people which
learned
> IE by an invading IE people, and that this original non IE's might
> have been Uralic or even Semitic, hence the oddity of Germanic as
far
> as IE languages go.
> Has anyone heard of this? And what the bases might be for this
> statem

The names of Danish islands and peninsulas are non-Germanic, and
probably non-IE, eg

Sams(ø)
Als
Mors
Mols

Jegind(ø)

Anund (now Anholt)
Selund (now Sjælland)
Borgund (Borgundærholm > Bornholm)

For some weird reason they have same suffixes (-s, -ind, -und) as the
supposed Anatolian placenames in Greece (-ssos, -inthos, -unthos),
but the roots of the names are not recognizably IE (or anything),
except for the Wanderwort *burg- (Greek pyrgos) (according to EIEC),
and possibly *sam- of Samsø, which might be taken, together with the
Samland peninsula of East Prussia, to be related to Suomi and Saami,
and therefore Finno-Ugric (Saami?) relic areas?

Torsten