Re: Romanian Loans in OCS?

From: m_iacomi
Message: 26382
Date: 2003-10-12

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" wrote:

> Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 06:29:10 +0000, Anthony Appleyard
>> <a.appleyard@...> wrote:
>>
>>> "alexandru_mg3" wrote:
>>>> 01, afurisi ,<ngr. aphorizo <sl. aforisati
>>>> 02, agheasmă ,<sl. agiazma, ngr. agiásma
[...]
>>>> 13, arhimandrit ,<sl. arhimandritû
>>>> 14, arminden ,<sl. Iereminû-dín²
>>>
>>> Some of these words are from Greek. Aleluia is from Hebrew.
>>
>> A- is a bad choice for a sample of Slavic words.
>
> that is true Miguel but the idea is seen as follow. It does not
> matter which is ultimatively the origin of these words, but it
> matters which is the language where from the Rom. got these words
> directly. [...]

You should have directed your hint not to Miguel but to Anthony.
Yes, DEX does not give the ultimate origin of the words but only
the last language before getting into Romanian (incidentally,
Daco-Romanian contacts with Neo-Greek were scarse, so the Slavic
intermediate fits better; there were phonetics does not rule out
the Greek term, one can infer a possible multiple etimology --
especially for some Church terms, potentially brought in Romanian
by Greek monks).
Miguel's point was different (and had I had enough time, I'd
had also a comment on that): the A-list is a bad set choice for
Slavic words since most of them are late church-related loans
from Greek; one should beter make an O-list or so...

Cheers,
Marius Iacomi