Re: [tied] Timing of ablaut

From: alex
Message: 26001
Date: 2003-09-24

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:02:35 +0000, elmeras2000 <jer@...>
> wrote:
>
>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>>
>> If stéar (stéa:r) is Proto-Greek /stá:(j)ar/ or /sté:(j)ar/ (thus
>> Frisk), then it does not show anything about the quality of the
>> laryngeal: IE *stá:yH3-r or *sté:yH3-r would be expected to produce
>> this result. The lengthened grade would be as in *yé:kW-r 'liver'.
>
> I was thinking of *steh2yr. > *sta:yar, which explains the length and
> the a-quality in a straightforward way. Apart from Greek stéar,
> there is no other indication about the nature of the laryngeal in
> this word. All things considered, I'd say Skt. stya:yate: "gerinnt,
> wird hart" is more likely to be an *a:y-formation (denominative from
> *stih2ah2 "etwas dichtes") than a causative. The connection with
> *steh2-, as suggested in EIEC, seems appropriate for the semantics of
> the cognate group.
>
>> The root 'to swell' is posited as *tewH2- in LIV, albeit on quite
>> slender basis (sáos 'safe' < *twawo- < *tuH2-ewo- as per Peters).
>
> If it's the etymon of so:ma, it must be *tewh3-. I would consider
> that stronger evidence than sáos.
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...


Just a question . The oak tree is considered having a very hard
consistence. Is the word "stejar" here maybe related?
This is the name for "oak tree" in Rom. and it is considered to be a
loan from Bulgarian ( not Slavic!!) "stez^er".

Alex