Re: PIE Stop System

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 25864
Date: 2003-09-17

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, P&G wrote:
You don't need me to spell out the reflexes for you, but in case
anyone > else > is following, we would expect to find:
> gWh > Skt h/gh Av j^ Arm j^/g Alb gj- Lith g-
OCS> s^/g
> g^hw > Skt hv/juhv- Av zb Arm j Alb z- Lith z^v
OCS zv >
> If we consider only the minimal pairs, and only the languages that
show > the > difference, then we get:
> gwhen "hit" Skt h / gh- Av j^ Arm j^/g- Alb gj- Lith g- OCS
z^ / g-
> gwhen "swell" Skt h-/ gh- Arm -g- Lith g OCS g
> g^hwen "resound" Arm j- Alb z- Lith z^v OCS zv-
>
> gwher "hot" Skt h-/gh- Arm j^- Lith g- OCS g-
> g^hwer "wild animal" Lith z^v OCS zv->
> g^hwel "become bent" Skt hvarate redupl juhur- & jahvar- Av zb-
Lith > z^v > OCS z-
> gwhel "want" OCS z^

Peter

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About PIE *gwhen `hit', according to Pokorny, Alb. gjanj, I have some
doubts.
First, I think that this is isolated case, where *gwh- reflects /gj/.
I much more prefere that, even we haven't to deal with labiovelar, I
am afraid that this root is treated like labiovelar, deriving Alb.
verb <zânë/zënë > `to catch, to row', due to regular evolution of /-
en/ > (g.) –ân/ (t.) –ën, cf. also zënkë `row, tussie' and that Alb.
not <gjanj>, but <gjuej/gjuaj>, probably from *gjo:nj (cf. also
oldest form <gjoja> `hunting'), with other derivates:
<gjuetar> `hunter', <gjueti> `hunting', <gjah> `shooting', etc. is
derived from PIE *ye:- `to throw' extended in (causative) –enyo >
gjo:nj> gjuej/gjuaj (cf. also *yeug^- > z-gjedhë `yoke', Sl.
<jebati> `to fuck', Alb. <z-gjebë> `scabies'.)
To this conclusion we may come also through another root *gwhen- `to
swell', especially in expression: <zë djathë> `to make cheese' < to
make milk swell, <gjakzënë> `swelling-blood'.

Konushevci