Re: [tied] Re: PIE *le:p/*la:b

From: alex
Message: 25800
Date: 2003-09-13

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> 13-09-03 13:41, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
>> To this root *sleb- 'to be weak, sleep' probably belongs Alb. verb
>> <fle> 'to sleep' < *slo:- , besides much complex adjective <i
>> plogshtë> 'indolent, lazy, apathetic' < *p-sle:-g-so-.
>> But, what about other prefixed Slavic form <kolebati> 'to waver, to
>> hesitate' (if we accept reconstructed root as *sloh1bo-) and Alb.
>> verb <lebetit> 'to strike terror into; to throw into panic, to
>> overawe', <lebeti> 'dread, panic, terror', both wit very firm /b/?
>
> Actually, both *(s)leh1b- and *(s)leh1g- (perhaps also *(s)leh1-bH-
> and *(s)lah2g-) are reconstructible, all meaning things like 'be
> slack, limp or weak; hang loosely; rest, relax'; that's why I
> mentioned phonaesthetic symbolism (cf. Eng. flabby, flag, flop,
> etc.). *kole^bati 'to rock' can be derived from *ko- + *leh1-b- if
> you want to add it as a cognate.
>
> Piotr

Hmmmm... it is for me a very intersting root the one you intend to put
better on the table. And this is because I try to explain myslef the
"eo"-group in Romanian for this root. To be a bit explicit. For the
Albanian anf Slavic cognates, there is in Rom. a family of words (with
the alternance "fl/pl" which should be explained somehow resonable):

pleosc= flop, splash ( cf DEX onomatopea)
fleosc= flop, splash ( cf DEX onomatopea)
fleaScã= milksop ( about people)
fleScãi= something which once was hard and it became weak, with no
resistence anymore
pleoSti( ploSti)= to became weak, without appetit,(adj. "pleoStit") to
hang there without vitality, indolent, lazy , apatic

These here points out together with Alb. and Germanic for a root like
*pl-Vo:sk-

On another hand there is the another family with "b" and "g" and not the
one with "p" and "-sk-":
bleg= sm dolt; milksop; fool ;adj (about ears) loopy; (about people)
soft, silly, dull, weak, sheepish; stupid; drooping
blegealã= the noun here foolness, loopyness, sillyness.

This one I will intend to relate to slavic "vlaga"(power?). Should be
there more cognates? Germanic family of "blöde" ?

Alex