Re: Some Albanian-Romanian concordances

From: tgpedersen
Message: 25692
Date: 2003-09-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Peter P" <peterp@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george.st@...> wrote:
>
>
> > I don't know. If it's PIE, then I'd be curious myself
> > to learn of other derivatives, aside of Rum. laba and
> > Hung. láb.
> >
> > >In fact the PIE root seems to be in Pokorny the root
> > >1172 *le:p flach sein; Hand-, Fußfläche, Schulterblatt,
> > >Schaufel, Ruderblatt u. dgl.'
> >
> > Boy-oh-boy, Hungarians have further words that'd fit
> > here: <lap> [lOp] "sheet, card, flat; Blatt." And
> > <lapos> [lOpoS] (actually adjectival derivation of
> > <lap>) "flat, even." (Hence e.g. the name of the
> > province of La~puS, Tzara La~puSului.) A further
> > derivation <lapocka> ['lOpotzkO] means "Schulterblatt,
> > shoulder blade."
> >
> > As for "Schaufel," Hung. <lapát> ['lOpa:t]. It can
> > 100% be translated as <lopata> into Romanian. But here
> > I guess that the path to PIE crosses Slavic realms
> > (<lopatka?>).
> >
> > George
>
> Interestingly;
>
> Finnish lapaluu - shoulder blade
> lapio - spade, shovel (doesn't come from Baltic)
> lapa - flat (part of instrument, blade, oar) wide flat head
> N Vogul - katlop, handwidth (kat, hand)
>

Danish lab "bear's paw", coll. "big hand", and "Jeg labber dig én".
And (by memory) Old Irish labh "hand".

Torsten