Re: holly elements

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> > Dear Alex,
> > I think that PIE root *dei- 'to shine, day, God' (see Pokorny

*dei-)

> > derives in Albanian words: <di> 'to know' (*ei >i),
> > <dije> 'knowledge', <dijetar> 'scholar', <dinak> 'cunning,
> > <dituri> 'learning' and <ditë> 'day' (*dei-ta:-). Prefixed form
> > <gdhij> 'to wake up, to rise', <gdhihem> 'to dawn up' and, that's
> > important here, <diell> 'sun' (*dei-el, cf. *sw-el 'sol' and, with
> > variant suffix -en, *sw-en 'sun', probably the root of Albanian
> > hyll/yll 'star', if we have to deal with s-mobile), besides

feminine

> > form Diella and diminutive Dilë. So, to my opinion, the supreme

God

> > of Proto-Albanians was Sun. This is the reason why _Dielli
> > perëndon_ "The sun is reigning", was translated correctly into

Greek

> > as "Ho Helios basileuei" (in P. Budi's "Dictionary…" – 1635 - the
> > verb <perëndon> has only the meaning `to reign').
> > Furthermore, according to Hans A. Pohlsander and Suny Albany "When
> > Diocletian and Maximian announced their retirement in 305, the
> > problem posed by the Christians was unresolved and the

persecution in

> > progress. Upon coming to power Constantine unilaterally ended all
> > persecution in his territories, even providing for restitution.

His

> > personal devotions, however, he offered first to Mars and then
> > increasingly to Apollo, reverenced as Sol Invictus."
> > I am aware too that E. Hamp and P. Gasiarowski have different
> > opinions about etymology of the Alb. word <diell> `sun', trying to
> > explain it from PIE *sw-el-, but it is my opinion and my attempt

to

> > explain this word.
> >
> > Konushevci
>
>
> Dear Abdullah,
> thank you for these information but my question was of another

nature.

> To rebuild it. Does Albanians today keep some of the following

elements

> for "holly" calling them The Saint Earth, the Saint Water or such ?
> earth, stars, sun, sea,moon, water, fire
>
> Alex

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No, as far as I know, even you can hear, even today, in lateral zone,
peaople to swear in Sun <Pasha Diell e Hanë> "I take an oath in Sun
and Moon" .

Konushevci