Miguel gets defensive because he knows he was way wrong:
>If you want to talk seriously, get your facts straight. The Hittite
>cognate is hartagga-, therefore /hartka-/ with /k/, not /g/. The
>Kartvelian form was borrowed from a metathesized and already
>post-laryngeal form *r.k^tos (> e.g. Greek arktos).
Whatever, at any rate, what you're saying is exactly what I just
said -- that it was borrowed from a _post-IE_ dialect and that it's
not from the actual IE form *xrtkos (is that better?) which
definitely has initial laryngeal. Your laryngeal-less construct above
is even post-IIr.
Miguel seems to be losing focus this week:
>Why should Proto-Kartvelian speakers have had considerations for
>markedness issues in PIE phonology? The allophone of /k/ before
>/t/ is necessarily front, nothing to do with satem.
Alright, so you're saying that Kartvelians couldn't pronounce *k
before *t, is that it? Why pray tell would this be so when Kartvelians
could apparently pronounce other more complex consonant clusters
like *mk?erd-? Kartvelian had no such allophone of *k and we know
that IE *k was plain and non-palatal. Kartvelians heard *s^t
from their Satem neighbours in some postIE time period. The form
you're looking for would appear to be more along the lines of
*(x)rs^tos to me.
= gLeN
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