[tied] Re: substratum

In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> 25-06-03 12:33, m_iacomi wrote:
>
>> [...] I still prefer a formula like: "Romanian substrate is a
>> language Y closely related or identical to Y' (Albanian stratum)".
>> Specially when dealing with a language "raising more questions to
>> comparatists than solving" like Albanian (Martinet).
>
> I think we can agree, at least, that the Balkan Latin stratum in
> Albanian is Romanian-like, whilst the non-Romance substrate in
> Romanian is Albanian-like.

We can agree that a certain number of Latin elements in Albanian
are "Romanian-like" whilst a certain number of Romanian substrate
elements are Albanian-like. As Mihaescu shows in "La langue latine
dans le Sud-Est de l'Europe", "entre le dalmate et le roumain il
existe des différences très importantes; quant aux éléments latins
de l'albanais, ils se situent entre ces deux langues [...] en
général, le latin de la côte de l'Adriatique s'est developpé
autrement que celui de Dacie et de Mésie"; or according to Skok:
<<Wir müssen daher zwei Typen der Balkan-Latinität annehmen. Der
eine hatte sein Zentrum in der Justinianischen Präfektur, und der
zweite an der Adria".

> This criss-cross relation suggests close contacts between
> Proto-Romanian and Proto-Albanian.

What timeline would you suggest for those "close contacts"?!

Regards,
Marius Iacomi