Re: Thracian , summing up

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 23-06-03 11:45, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > I think I will be advocatus Alexi here: There are two types of

events

> > in the history of any Romance language:
> >
> > 1) a pidginisation and creolisation phase, in which an adult
> > population learns the new language Latin
> >
> > 2) a phase of continuous and regular development after that

(mostly)

> >
> > Most accounts of Romance languages stress only type 2

developments.

>
> And with good reason. The hallmark of pidginisation is the erasure

(I

> repeat: erasure, not partial reduction) of the grammatical

structure of

> the language being pidginised, which did not happen anywhere in

Romance.

Erh, a grammarless language??

> Parts of the Latin system collapsed, but definitely too much of it
> survived (especially in the area of conjugation) for pidginisation

to be

> plausibly entertainable. This point has been made on Cybalist

several

> times, though you persist in ignoring it. It seems new populations
> learnt passable colloquial Latin in the process of being Romanised -

- or

> do you think it's impossible for people to learn a second lanuage

in

> this way?
>

No TV, no textbooks, no teachers. A passable colloquial Latin should
be poossible, yes. Take the tourist traps today. Do the natives there
speak a passable colloquial English? Do they speak pidgin English?
Depends on the person. (And the observer).

Torsten