--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> > > And BTW do you have any news on the
> > > Ringknaufschwerter? The reason is
> > > ask is I found one article in which a Dolch (dagger)
> > > with such a ring-
> > > shaped pommel is called typically Sarmatian, and in
> > > another those
> > > swords are found in large amounts in Thuringia and
> > > Denmark (and a few
> > > in Sweden).
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> > *****GK: See message 23442. Have these Thuringian,
> > Danish, and Swedish swords been dated?*****
> > >
>
Correction
Terminology
A Pre-Roman (Celtic) Iron Age
B1 (approx) until 75 CE
B2 (approx) 75 CE until 160 CE
The map PK provides does not give periods for the finds of
Ringknaufschwerter. However he thinks they belong with the finds of
chain mail, of which the finds are: 2 B1 in Slovakia, 4 B2 on the
right bank of the Elbe, 1 B2 in Schleswig, 1 B2 in Scania, 2 B2/C1 in
Poland and several later in Jutland and Fyn. The geographical
distribution of the swords is similar (thus out of the range of the
Romans!) I was wondering why the Germani didn't cross the Elbe after
Varrus' defeat, perhaps the dating of the periods needs revision?
The weapons arrived relatively late (or perhaps were given as
gravegoods late?) PK point to spheroid chapes (Kugelortbänder)
arriving earlier; again the same pattern: early wide distribution
from upper Elbe to Holstein and Jutland, later concentrated in
Holstein and Jutland (except these are represented on Öland and
Gotland too).
from
Piotr Kaczanowski
Aus den Forschungen an der territrorialen Differenzierung des
Zuströms römischer Waffenimporte im Barbaricum
in
Beiträge zu römischer und barbarischer Bewaffnung in den ersten vier
nachchristlichen Jahrhunderten
I won't recomend that you read it since the last time I did that you
asked Piotr to shut me up.
Torsten