Re: Dumnezeu

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 23480
Date: 2003-06-18

You're probably right, but I don't think much we discuss on this
list is INDUBITABLE. "Dumnica" immediately called to mind the
Dumnonii in 1st century Britain, not (all right, indubitably not) a
Romanian tribe. :-)
Dan
****
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<a_konushevci@...> wrote:
> Dear Sorin,
> I am very much interested does this word has any role in Romanian
> onomastics, because in Kosova are two place names, INDUBITABLY
with
> romanian appelative dumnizeu: Dumnica e Poshtme "Lower Dumnica"
> and "Upper Dumnica", probably to distinguish them by others
infidels
> villages.
>
> Konushevci
> ************
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "S & L" <mbusines@...> wrote:
> > --- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> > > Continuing our discussions.
> > > What would be a short (or not so short) list of
> > > INDUBITABLY ancient ecclesiastical terms in
> > > Romanian,
> > > viz., such as entered the language before the advent
> > > of the Slavic influence?
> > >
> > > "Biserica" certainly qualifies. We can say with
> > > appropriate certainty that this word (as "basilica")
> > > was quite current in Latin Christianity between the
> > > 4th and 7th centuries.
> > >
> > > "Domnezeu" also qualifies. We haven't discussed
> > > this,
> > > but there would be no problems I think.
> >
> > *****GK: I did wish to put one question in connection
> > with this word. Is Romanian the only language of a
> > historically Christian population where the primary
> > term for "God" is an epithet? Domnezeu as a
> > development of "Dominus Deus". The Slavic equivalent
> > would be "Gospod Bog/Hospod Boh".*****
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~
> > In "Istoria Bisericii Ortodoxe Romane", by Preot Prof. Dr.
Mircea
> Pacurariu,
> > Editura Institutului Biblic si de Misiune al Bisericii Ortodoxe
> Romane,
> > Bucuresti, 1992, page 73/Marturii Lingvistice: "DUMNEZEU
[aromanian
> > DUMNIDZÃU] is coming from DOMINE DEUS, and in the old popular
form
> without
> > "I", DOMNE DEUS, an old pagan invocation adopted also by the
> Christians for
> > their only God".
> >
> > The term in macedoromanian is DHUMNIDZÃ(U) and in
meglenoromanian
> DUMNIZESC
> > [in Alexandru Ciorãnescu/ie Alejandro CIORANESCU "Diccionario
> Etimolo'gico
> > Rumano", 1958-'59, Biblioteca Filologica, La Laguna University,
> Spain].
> >
> > S o r i n