Re: [tied] Nominative: A hybrid view

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 22439
Date: 2003-05-31

I've got a Mordvin one for Jens and one for Glen.

For Jens: there *is* a construction with clearly plural-1/2 p.-plural
in Uralic, namely the Mordvin stative (extended to the Mordvin verb).

Mordvin has a true stative (i.e. verbal endings attached to nouns),
and the 1st person plural is *-ta-mo-k > -tank, -tano, 2pl. *-ta-do-k
> -tadk, -tado (e.g. Erza Mordvin sazorta-no "we are sisters").

The endings -tano, -tado are also the regular intransitive verbal
endings.

For Glen: the Mordvin noun has three declensions: indefinite,
possessive and definite (and it can also take verbal endings).

The suffix of the nominative of the definite declension is *-s' (from
the demonstrative pronoun *sV). The genitive ends in -n't', i.e. the
genitive suffix *-n plus the pronominal element *t (from demonstrative
pronoun *tV). The other oblique cases are built as: ROOT + case
suffix + -n't' (i.e. indefinite case + definite genitive). The nom.
pl. definite is -t'n'e (indef. pl. -t' + pronominal element -ne, from
the demonstrative *nV). The plural oblique is ROOT + t'n'e + case
suffix.

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