Re: [tied] PIE *ghe(n)d

From: tgpedersen
Message: 21865
Date: 2003-05-14

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003 17:32:10 -0400, "Brian M. Scott"
> <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> >According to
> >
> >http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/cgi-bin/szotarG?
search_term=gond&max_hits=100&mode=1&diction=H
> >
> >(or go to <http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/cgi-bin/szotarG> and
> >plug <gond> into the search window):
> >
> >'Mühsal, Kummer, Sorge'.
>
> Unfortunately, there's no Magyar etymological dictionary online. It
> would be nice to know the etymology, as <gond> with initial g- can
> hardly be a native (FU) word.
>

Peter Schrijver
Lost Languages in Northern Europe
has a "language of geminates"
called so since roots from it show a
variation "of the final root consonant which may be single or double,
voiced or voiceless, and prenasalised".

He compares a reconstructed Pre-Proto-Germanic (pre-Grimm, pre-
Verner) *kant- "hand" with Proto-Finno-Ugric *käti- (Finnish 'käsi')
and observes that with the phonemic latitude given by the "language
of geminates" the gloss might belong to that language. Add further
the gH/k alternation found in some IE roots (from which language?
Möller uses that alternation a lot in his (I suppose) IE-AfrAs common
loanwords) and we're getting there. (But we don't even have to do
that, "voiced or voiceless" Schrijver said).

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