Re: [tied] klap- (it was Re: cardinal points)

On Sat, 10 May 2003 15:50:39 +0200, alex_lycos <altamix@...>
wrote:

>tolgs001 wrote:
>>> The "kläffen" does not belong to "klap-
>>
>> Klappe! :-) Of course it does!
>> Where's the link? Exactly in Mittelniederdeutsch:
>> klatschen, schallen, plappern. A too voluble
>> somebody does... klapp-klapp-klapp. And to
>> klaffen & kläffen there is only a small step:
>> Niederdeutsch [p] becomes Mittel- and Ober-
>> deutsch [f]. (North of Aachen-Cologne-Berlin
>> you have Aap, South of it Affe "ape")
>>
>> George
>
>Miguel has given the entries from Klugen:

Kluge

>"Klaff m. Zu germ *klap- "den Mund offen haben" gehören (ausser kläffen
>s.d.) "
>
>s.d.= siehe dort, uita-te acolo, look there at the entry of "kläffen"

The problem is not s.d., it's "ausser", which here doesn't mean
"except", but "besides" (înca, în plus).

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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