Re: [tied] Re: cardinal points

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From: "george knysh" <gknysh@...>
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: cardinal points


>
> --- tolgs001 <gs001ns@...> wrote:
> >
> > So, not Germans speaking Mittelhochdeutsch, but
> > Germanic tribes who had spoken idioms more or
> > less similar to Wulfila's (and Iordanes's) Gothic
> > 6-8-10 centuries earlier
> >
> > George
>
> *****GK: And since linguistic interplay does not
> require "intermingling" but can occur in situations of
> close geographical proximity, we should also bear in
> mind that Basternae and other Germanics had been
> direct neighbours of Getae/Dacians for
> half-a-millennium prior to the arrival of the Goths. A
> sufficiently long period of time it seems to me.******


About the Bastarnae is not clear if they have been germanic or not.
Jordanes doesn't keep them for germanic, and there are rumors they have
been celtic.
The other Germanic people in the West, they have been neighbours with
the Dacian indeed, though the celts have been these who entered the
Dacian theritory. Tacitus (if I don't remember wrong ) said that the
Germans and Dacians are separated by a big forest and by a reciprocicaly
big fear before each other.
The words as germanic "treppen" (step, flight of stairs), tretten are
loans from an unknown language.The nasalisert form is "trempeln" and
there in the same family is the Old French "*trappa".
The romanian verb " a tropai" (to trample) is given as onopatopoeic, and
the word "treapta"( stair, flight of stairs) is given as from Latin
"trajecta".