Re: [tied] Re: the bee

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 21218
Date: 2003-04-23

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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: the bee



> I guess you missunderstood my question.

I don't think so. It seems you've misunderstood a lot of what other people have tried to explain to you.

> I have a mexican colegue and I aksed how it is spoken "Sevilla". The answer was : "seviia". This is why I asked Miguel how many syllables are in
Sevilla. The palatal "l" is kind of "i", so there should be se-vi-i-a, 4
syllables.

It's [se.Bi.ja] (3 syllables). [j] is the non-syllabic counterpart of [i]. SEMIVOWEL (a.k.a. GLIDE) versus VOWEL. Got it?

> The question is of major importance because I should like to know if the palatal "l" in Proto-Romanian could be an /i/ or what could this one be
in teh Latin groups /cl/ and /gl/.

When lenited, palatal [l^] rather frequently turns into the palatal semivowel [j]. In many orthographies the spelling is <i> or <y>, but don't confuse letters with sounds -- in this particular context these letters stand for non-syllabic vowel-like sounds. Now please move aside to some quiet corner and contemplate what has been said so far.

Piotr