From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 20908
Date: 2003-04-09
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:am
> >
> > --- Abdullah Konushevci <a_konushevci@...>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> > > <tgpedersen@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah
> > > Konushevci"
> > > > <a_konushevci@...> wrote:
> > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr
> > > Gasiorowski"
> > > > > <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"
> > > <tgpedersen@...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Heyerdahl says 'Oltak' is the Armenian
> > > version of the name,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > doesn't provide a reference. Is Oltak
> > > mentioned by any other
> > > > > sources
> > > > > > > than Plutarch and Appian?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The full story of Olthacus the Dandarian and
> > > his miscarried
> > > > > attempt to
> > > > > > assassinate Lucullus can be found here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/lucullus.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does Heyerdahl provide a reference to any
> > > Classical Armenian
> > > > source
> > > > > > where the name Oltak (or similar) occurs?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Piotr
> > > > > ************
> > > > > As far as I remember, there is also a mythologic
> > > hero of
> > > Dardanians
> > > > > named Dandon. His charcteristic is to live very
> > > long life.
> > > > > If it be of any importance, I will find the
> > > source, even I doubt
> > > > how
> > > > > it should be segmented as Dan-don or Dand-on.
> > > > > For me, the name Oltak, sounds very
> > > Uralo-Altaic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Konushevci
> > > >
> > > > That name rang a bell.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://gd.cnread.net/cnread1/ewjd/g/gibbon/hor/029.htm
> > > >
> > > > A Bastarnean Deldon. I've tried before to
> > > ascertain the provenance
> > > of
> > > > that remark, to no avail (eventually to find out
> > > what language the
> > > > Bastarneans spoke). Note that Gibbon heard the
> > > Odin story too.
> > > >
> > > > Torsten
> > > ************
> > > Dear Torsten,
> > > The reference is: Plinii Secundi, Naturalis
> > > Historiae, Book XVII 138.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Abdullah Konushevci
> >
> > *****GK: The Pliny reference is incorrect, and
> > Torsten's URL doesn't work either. Remediable errors
> > and technical glitches perhaps, but, humorously, quite
> > fitting in connection with Torsten's endless pursuit
> > of his idee fixe. He claims not to be a religious
> > Odinist (no one ever accused him of that), but his
> > constant (if by now totally incoherent given the
> > number of variants he's essayed) reiteration of the
> > Snorri Odin fairy tale as historical fact certainly
> > qualifies for the epithet "Odinist lunacy". It was
> > clear nearly a year ago that this ideological
> > conviction was relentless and irreformable, and had
> > nothing to do with the pursuit of science. He was told
> > to desist by the moderator. We had some blissful peace
> > and quiet for a while. Now it's come back, at first
> > insidiously, and finally full blast. Has Piotr decided
> > to cancel his earlier ruling?******
>
> ************
> I am sorry, but it's hard to be always in hurry (We have constant
> lack of electricity). It was Naturalis Historiae, VII, 48(49). I
> trying to translate from one Albanian collection of ancientAnd, at least, original version:
> authors: "According to Alexander Corneli, one called Dandon from
> Illyria, lived 500 years". ("Ilirët dhe Iliria te autorët antikë",
> Rilindja, Prishtina, 1979, po. 196.)
> > Konushevci
>
> >
> >
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