[tied] Re: hades (Perkele)

From: tgpedersen
Message: 20848
Date: 2003-04-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Peter P" <no1@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel J. Milton"
<dmilt1896@...>
> wrote:
> > *******
> > THe Finnish Devil 'Perkele'. Is his name borrowed from the
> > Baltic?
>
> Here is a snip from a Finnish Neswpaper. I may not be exactly
> academic but possibly interesting.
>
> "One of the principal gods of ancient Lithuanians was Perkunas
> (Perkons in Latvia), the god of thunder, fire, and warriors. The
name
> is the same as the Finnish perkele - one of the many colourful
> expressions for the devil, and a sign of the close ties between
> ancient Balts and Finno-Ugrian peoples.
> Though Perkunas is a positive character, his name is also used
> for swearing: "May Perkunas strike you down!"

Heyerdahl: Jakten på Odin quotes
S.L. Tolstova: Memories in a subgroup of Massagetae-alani in the
traditions of the turcophone people of Khorezm
in
A.V. Vinogradova (ed.): Ethnography and archaeology in Middle Asia
Moscow 1979

Among the Karakalpak and Uzbek tribes of Khorezm there are widespread
genealogical legends of the division of land between the three sons
of Peridon (or Feridon). To the son named Tur belong thepopulation in
the areas north of the Amu-Darja river. This territory was populated
in ancient time by East Iranian speaking nomads; the Saka and
Massagetai tribes with whom the name Turan or Tur had been connected
in earlier times.

Torsten