Re: slavic "dalto"

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 20762
Date: 2003-04-04

--- In, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:56 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"
> > Until gdhe is prefixed form ga- + PIE root *da- 'to devide'(cf.
Alb. gdhij 'to wake up' and Alb. di-të 'day' from PIE zero grade
form *dyu- or z- + ga- + fellë 'cave' from i thellë/i fellë 'deep',
zgavër 'hole' from z- +ga- + vër>vrimë/birë 'small hole'), and
gdhend from PIE *ga- + *da- + -ent, why couldn't Alb. dal-të be from
PIE *dail- 'to divede', but must be a Slavic loan.
> There's a difference of quality between saying that *dolb-to
derives from *delb-/*dolb-/*dIlb-, a know Slavic root with numerous
derivatives, the right semantics and securely established external
cognates (including a Baltic set), and saying that <dal-të> may be
related to PIE *da(h2)- and *dail-. The latter "root" is a
questionable reconstruction in the first place (and as for "why
not?", the last time I checked the Albanian reflex of *ai was /e/);
the former is so short (and therefore so vulnerable to arbitrary
manipulation) that without a strong argument showing and explaining
the specific details of the derivation you won't make a convincing
> The hypothesis that <daltë> is a Slavic loan is not a necessity or
an article of faith; it simply gives us a better fit with the known
data than any other explanation offered so far.
> Piotr

I am very curious to know the words or examples where reflex of *ai
was /e/ in Albanian inherited lexikon. As far as I am aware, exept
the word petk < *baita and some of mine etymologies (edh, ethe, eth,
river name Erenik).
I will be very grateful to you, if you could give much more examples.